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12-20-2016 , 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by HolidayInTheSun
Q: Hits, do you ever feel guilty that you make your living off the backs of people who are foolishly throwing away their hard-earned money?

Thinking...



A: No.
I thought you made your living on the backs of people that do actual work and bet their own opinions.
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12-20-2016 , 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle
These elite sports betting math gurus are probably right in the fact that it is a -EV play or neutral EV play at best. But logically, as someone who does follow hockey religiously and has played at mid to top level junior hockey, it makes sense psychology in the mind of a hockey player, as silly as that so
But what? If the statement in your first sentence is true then any other consideration is a red herring. You've basically said this:

It's probably a Negative EV proposition but "argo fargo" psychology and stuff.
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12-20-2016 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Inzaghi
But what? If the statement in your first sentence is true then any other consideration is a red herring. You've basically said this:



It's probably a Negative EV proposition but "argo fargo" psychology and stuff.


I guess I should of said "but there is a chance this can hit multiple times in a row and get hot if it runs good."

Why so hostile? Honestly who really cares?
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12-20-2016 , 03:33 PM
I'm not hostile. I only care about what's true.

If you meant to say:

"but there's a chance the bet will run good"

Why not simply say that? Why write some convoluted sentence, somehow containing the words "psychology" and "religiously", that doesn't align with your underlying point? Your expression was so bad I had to seek clarification.

Also, even if the statement above is true, how does it defeat your first statement that the bet is probably -EV?
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12-20-2016 , 03:45 PM
I'm not saying the bet is -EV OR +EV. I'm using words like probably, and in my opinion. Take anything I say FWIW.
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12-20-2016 , 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Sabaneta
I thought you made your living on the backs of people that do actual work and bet their own opinions.
“The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.”
― G.K. Chesterton

Let me know where to send my Christmas card this year
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12-20-2016 , 08:05 PM
[joke about fighting for muscular well hung men]
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12-21-2016 , 05:08 AM
if it's - ev, then no proven psychological aspect to the game is going to make it profitable. or am i missing something
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12-21-2016 , 06:45 PM
me being in the wagon is making it unpreofitable
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12-21-2016 , 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle
I'm not saying the bet is -EV OR +EV. I'm using words like probably, and in my opinion.
You'll note I used the word "probably" in the post above yours so my point stands.

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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle
Take anything I say FWIW.
You provide no evidence or solid reasoning and your textual ramblings are all too distant from the point you're trying to make. Tell me why your word is worth more than nothing? And if the answer is "it isn't", why bother with your post in the first place?
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12-21-2016 , 08:05 PM
Guy asked opinion, I gave mine. **** off if you can't add anything else to the convo. Not trying to argue about it just look at thread and decide for your self, or not I could care less.
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12-21-2016 , 08:29 PM
Here is your post in it's entirety once more:

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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle
I've kind of been an advocate of the system since I heard about it probably last year. It was running super hot last year where it got to the point where they really weren't setting any under 5.5s when ML was >-200. Of course I don't know if it was because of this thread or not but it definitely happened.

This year it started out promising, although I questioned ProfEds semi-selective following of this system (I.e when he said he didn't bet certain games because line dipped below -200 but never really said what line he was following) it was doing pretty good at beginning. Fizzled out and is probably evenish since although I haven't really kept track.

These elite sports betting math gurus are probably right in the fact that it is a -EV play or neutral EV play at best. But logically, as someone who does follow hockey religiously and has played at mid to top level junior hockey, it makes sense psychology in the mind of a hockey player, as silly as that sounds.

In conclusion, nearly 100% of sports betting is -EV. So bet it if you want, fade it if you want, either way there is no need to talk down to the people that have been religiously following this, the same as there is no reason to rip on the guys who are saying ProfEd is a touting, scammer.

Gl all
I have good reason to call you up on it. This post is the sort of soothing yet nonsensical commentary that lures the naive into following touts and betting sideshows.
If one reduces this waffled post into substantive form, it merely flounders on the following point:

The bet is probably -EV but psychology and run good and stuff.
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12-21-2016 , 08:37 PM
Everything I said was honest and legit. I don't claim to be a sharp bettor actually on the contrary I'm an admitted losing bettor. Have you ever played hockey in your life? If you haven't then you have no idea what I mean so take whatever I say FWIW. Which is pretty much nothing as is 90% of anything posted in this forum.
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12-21-2016 , 09:02 PM
Well to your credit, you admit the post was worth nothing. Most people wouldn't.
And I'm not having a go at you personally- I'm just looking out for the little guy.
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12-23-2016 , 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle
Everything I said was honest and legit. I don't claim to be a sharp bettor actually on the contrary I'm an admitted losing bettor. Have you ever played hockey in your life? If you haven't then you have no idea what I mean so take whatever I say FWIW. Which is pretty much nothing as is 90% of anything posted in this forum.
I've played hockey for a long time. Please detail exactly how playing hockey gives you an edge over the NHL sports betting market. What is it that you know that no one else does?
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12-23-2016 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Poogs
I've played hockey for a long time. Please detail exactly how playing hockey gives you an edge over the NHL sports betting market. What is it that you know that no one else does?


Just on this niche I said in the mind of a hockey player it makes sense. I have been in a lot of games where we would of definitely been a >2-1 dog and the key to competing in those games is DEFENSE AND GOALTENDING. We won more games 2-1 or 1-0 against great teams than against teams we were evenly matched. Or we would lose 5-0 4-0 because we could barely get a shot through to the net and our goalie (me) stood on his head to even keep us in the game.

I don't claim to have an advantage in the NHL market but when I bet games I always look and think about stuff in my experiences. Obviously never played on NHL level but I have skated with many a d1 and major junior level players and a recently retired NHLer I trained with in summers when he was active.
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12-23-2016 , 11:57 AM
Questions to pro ed or anyone that is not hating too much on da zyztem

1. So tonight we r supposed to lay -140 on the col/chi und 5.5?
2. NJ/pit looks nice und 6 -115?
3. What about that TB/WSH and VAN/CLGRY und 5 is paying $$$? Worse thing that can happen is that we tie right?

Pretty sure u have thought about #3

Do you already have a system when the line is 5 under +$$$?
That looks nice like: New ZYZtem > take und 5 +120 or more EA$Y money!

All answers are welcome
Just let me know before i place the bets

GLGL
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12-23-2016 , 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Poogs
I've played hockey for a long time. Please detail exactly how playing hockey gives you an edge over the NHL sports betting market. What is it that you know that no one else does?
maybe not in NHL but in other smaller markets it would make a big difference just because you got more knowledge than the public

markets where there isn't a huge amount of stats

and also there is always inside info you can get compared to rest of the public
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12-23-2016 , 12:56 PM
You're worse off having played the sport than not.
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12-23-2016 , 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
You're worse off having played the sport than not.


I'm not disagreeing with you, but could you explain your reasoning for this?
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12-23-2016 , 01:04 PM
Implicit bias clouds your thinking.

See the TomG domination of Poogs in NHL Player Props.
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12-23-2016 , 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
Implicit bias clouds your thinking.

See the TomG domination of Poogs in NHL Player Props.


Ok that's where I thought you were headed with that. I can say I honestly agree with you. I over think so much and am definitely down lifetime NHL.
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12-23-2016 , 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by iTzLifestyle
Just on this niche I said in the mind of a hockey player it makes sense. I have been in a lot of games where we would of definitely been a >2-1 dog and the key to competing in those games is DEFENSE AND GOALTENDING. We won more games 2-1 or 1-0 against great teams than against teams we were evenly matched. Or we would lose 5-0 4-0 because we could barely get a shot through to the net and our goalie (me) stood on his head to even keep us in the game.

I don't claim to have an advantage in the NHL market but when I bet games I always look and think about stuff in my experiences. Obviously never played on NHL level but I have skated with many a d1 and major junior level players and a recently retired NHLer I trained with in summers when he was active.
hmmm so youre saying that a team with a lead late in the game will play more defensively?! I cant believe no one has ever thought about that!!
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12-23-2016 , 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mihkel05
Implicit bias clouds your thinking.

See the TomG domination of Poogs in NHL Player Props.
This is just not true. I dont think my "experience" as a hockey player helps me in betting hockey whatsoever. I think playing a sport almost definitely hurts your chances of beating it.
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12-23-2016 , 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Poogs
hmmm so youre saying that a team with a lead late in the game will play more defensively?! I cant believe no one has ever thought about that!!


No I didn't say anything like that lol. I said weaker teams depend on defense and goaltending against stronger teams.
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