OP,

You want to bet the flop here. Checking makes no sense whatsoever.

As played, you will want to felt it. If villain is capable of slowplaying a straight, then he is also capable of slowplaying a set and two pair that include an ace are very very likely.

You might lose this hand, for sure. But that's ok. What you want to do is analyse the situation and put villain on a handrange and do your betting accordingly. If villain showed up with an underset then you would feel very silly. And I say this to show that one should not be results oriented. What one should be is play oriented, without knowing the results but only having the information that lead up to the individual decisions.

Mods: Can we please please please please make this the cheese thread? that would be sooo awesome.

Prison Break Season 3 is out in a little over a month! I'm pumped! Whos with me?

The only thing is, isn't villian betting turn with set/two pair almost all the time? There is a three straight on the board, hero's range definitely includes a random jack right? especially if he's checking behind on the flop. If he has a set he's going for the second check raise after the first one missed? that seems unlikely....

Hell yeahhhhhh

Hay does anyone know if 24 is done for good or is it coming back for another season? I couldn't work out from the last episode is Jack committed suicide or not :/

thx for letting me know how it ends man cant you use spoilers?

Also i wonder if theyr gonna drag prison break on forever. I hope it ends with s 3

shove river and played this pretty well.

Yeah I think they said Prison Break will end with Season 3, I think they definitely should if they're not though.

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+ this:




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WTF????

I didnt give away anything, I have no idea what happens they fade out and leave it open.

rofl pics or ban plz. Of their cam not yours obv. What did said webcam threesome entail?

I COULDNT WORK OUT HOW TO SAVE THE FEED AASDSDSFFASFDFSDSF

I promise it really did happen. They pashed, flashed a lot, got naked, went down on each other (!!), in return for me doing the obvious thing for them.

As for pics, ughhh, here's one, other is equally hot.

EDIT: [censored] this, I'm freaking out. PM if u rly want to see a (clothed) pic

Hahahah bet they saved it and sent it to everyone they know! Happened to a kid I know from school about 2 years ago and we still rag on him about it.

LOL. See I'm kinda insulated from that a bit - they're two of my GF's closest friends SHIPITKTHX!!!1!111

Made it 10x more awesome.

lol your gf has good friends.

QFT

I'll say!

What she doesn't know won't hurt her. Hopefully she doesn't know my 2p2 handle.....

talk about results-oriented idiocy. the results don't matter whatsoever in this hand. you, sir, are a fool if you actually believe what you're posting.

the op shows that neither of these statements is the case. and even if the op was some kind of weird aberration, your win rate shows that neither is the case.

have you been watching phil hellmuth? you belong on the p5s forums, or cardplayer or something. your bs will be received better there.

It's not just that he checked. No, no, no. It's the way he checked.

Just any old check coulda been AJo or 55, but not this check. No way, no how.

i assume op is alluding to a timing tell, that's all i can think of. this is online poker, there are no physical reads to be had.

either way, clearly op has screws loose.

I know this is against the spirit of this thread and everything, but I don't mind this hand so much. Obviously it's not standard, but I would sometime check this flop for pot control/to let villain take the lead on the turn.

Turn card obviously sucks, but I'd have probably bet it because the board is drawy, overcards are a big part of your range, and there's a decent chance YHIG.

I think you have to shove the river, but it's not hugely +ev to do so unless villains a big paystation. Basically, the river CR will be a bluff a very large percentage of the time and a slowplayed monster in nearly all other instances. Two pair type hands all make very little sense. Anyway, out of slowplayed monster hands sets are much less likely than JT, especially after the flop is checked through, because hero obviously is not sitting on a set/two pair and as such villain has nothing to fear with JT. Sets, OTOH, have all sorts of cards to sweat (small straights as well). Anyway, that doesn't mean he couldn't have a set and have been going for another CR on the turn when the ace falls.

So yeah, don't do this all the time (or often at all), bet turn and shove river.

Apart from that, though, the OP is far less embarrassing (talk of 'pristine reads' and 'handling situations better than any other SSNL player' notwithstanding) than most of the replies that scoff at the notion of not playing like a robot and occasionally experimenting with a different line.

grunching.

So, you breakeven/lose because you get coolered huh?

The fact that you just call the river with the nuts too often wouldn't have anything to do with your winrate?

O RLY?

You do know that you sucked out on 77, 88, 99, 98, 97 and 87 right?

Lol.

thanks for articulating clearly why exactly you just dont get poker. also, are you really the prepubescent boy in your avatar/ why do you keep playing when you are a loser lifetime at 1/2?

It wasn't about saving money in this case; just the fact that I read so ridiculously well that I'm able to save money in spots where mere mortals cannot.