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03-04-2010 , 04:31 PM

scarface.vlt

adept

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,065

20/19/46% 650h
fcb 25(8) rcb 25
f turncbet 25(4)r turncbet 50

what do we do here

pbb views me as 22/20/36% ~70cbet 40-50 2nd barrel i think

Poker Stars $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $106.65
BB: $84.00
Hero (UTG): $121.00
MP: $279.65
CO: $1.50
BTN: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with Q

Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, BTN calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($8.50) 8

(2 players)
Hero bets $6.00, BTN calls $6

Turn: ($20.50) T

(2 players)
Hero bets $16.00, BTN raises to $42

03-04-2010 , 04:45 PM

Lord_Ferus

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 4,805

ship da nickles

03-04-2010 , 04:48 PM

higher_energy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,911

everything

03-04-2010 , 04:50 PM

scarface.vlt

adept

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 1,065

what kind of hands is he raising here u guys think

03-04-2010 , 05:02 PM

CCM

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 6,528

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarface.vlt

what kind of hands is he raising here u guys think

You have more reads than us but I would suggest we are not good very often here. QT/TT/T8 and flushes which checked the flop seem the most likely candidates, unless you have reads which say otherwise.

I think c/c or c/r (mostly the former) are a superior lines to b/f with this hand though. If you had A

b/f is the way to go, but your current hand has more value then that.

03-04-2010 , 05:03 PM

BobbyLight

old hand

Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,651

I think he's probably raising flushes, then straights, then a set, and maybe KQ with King of diamonds.

We better suck out on the river if we are shoving because he's never bluffing here.

03-04-2010 , 05:04 PM

BoC34

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 1,469

Quote:

Originally Posted by CCM

b/f is the way to go, but your current hand has more value then that.

i like this.

03-04-2010 , 06:49 PM

thatssosick

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,443

im calling and c/fing all non-diamond rivers

we have immediate pot odds to draw to the nuts and i dont think villain is ever bluffing here

03-04-2010 , 07:11 PM

LucKeeRiceBalls

adept

Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 908

i like checking this turn more than betting it; bc its going to be hard lots of money in on the turn without having to suckout on the river and we arenot going to get 3 streets from a Qx unless its QKd

03-04-2010 , 07:18 PM

#10

Kevin8423

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,984

Quote:

Originally Posted by thatssosick

im calling and c/fing all non-diamond rivers

we have immediate pot odds to draw to the nuts and i dont think villain is ever bluffing here

03-04-2010 , 07:21 PM

#11

skibbel

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Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,867

Quote:

Originally Posted by thatssosick

we have immediate pot odds to draw to the nuts and i dont think villain is ever bluffing here

we don't have the odds. we get 1-3 and need 1-4.5

Last edited by skibbel; 03-04-2010 at 07:26 PM.

03-04-2010 , 07:30 PM

#12

Kevin8423

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Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,984

Yeah you're right, though we don't need to be paid off very often at all to make it fine so I think once we bet the turn calling is the correct play given his sizing.

Edit: Not that it makes a huge difference but I think we probably actually have like 1-4 vs his range unless you expect him to flat the flop with a really wide range of flushes which seems like a strange thing to assume.

03-04-2010 , 07:41 PM

#13

skibbel

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having 1-4 doesn't matter given he can outplay us on some cards, while we can't and don't have much implied odds.

03-04-2010 , 07:44 PM

#14

skibbel

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Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 4,867

given there are str8 fd's and set possibilies we also have only 6 outs to the nuts and huge RIO vs Jd9d,JdTd,Td9d

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