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12-07-2007 , 06:27 PM
Cause you're getting > 2-1 to call and getting odds vs all but the tightest ranges.

I generally never 4 bet bluff with 100bb effective stacks. If I think a guy is 3 bet/squeezing light I 4 bet for value with a slightly wider range and call in position a lot more liberally.
12-07-2007 , 06:30 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DLKeeper1
might go to stars, i'm currently on ftp w/ rakeback. thoughts?
fwiw, the equivilant rb at stars for SN at 1/2 is like 22%
12-07-2007 , 06:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DLKeeper1
might go to stars, i'm currently on ftp w/ rakeback. thoughts?
why would you move from some site with tough games and rakeback to some site with tough games with less rakeback?


btw, great month so far!

12-07-2007 , 06:33 PM
why JJ_raise is terrible:

Full Tilt Poker $1.00/$2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $33.00
MP: $197.00
CO: $217.10
BTN: $335.00
SB: $200.80
Hero (BB): $214.50

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with Q J
4 folds, SB raises to $8, Hero calls $6

Flop: ($16.00) T 8 5 (2 players)
SB bets $14, Hero calls $14

Turn: ($44.00) 7 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $32, SB calls $32

River: ($108.00) 2 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

SB shows A6o
12-07-2007 , 06:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shpanko
My month at 1-2. I is good

thats really sick, good job
12-07-2007 , 06:36 PM
December is fun.

12-07-2007 , 06:41 PM
Hey shpanko, My month at 1/2. I is good too.
Lol, we are on the same schedule it seems. I got 40 more hands slacker!
12-07-2007 , 06:45 PM
Very nice graph BGnight!
12-07-2007 , 06:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fees
why JJ_raise is terrible:
i've seen him make some questionable plays also. but i'm pretty sure he's taking more $ out of the ftp nl200 than any other player.
12-07-2007 , 06:56 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Double Eagle
These are all really really bad if you were folding to a shove.
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 28.020% 27.80% 00.22% 83774068 667950.00 { 85s }
Hand 1: 71.980% 71.76% 00.22% 216255536 667950.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AKo }


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.293% 33.00% 00.29% 149194116 1305210.00 { 22 }
Hand 1: 66.707% 66.42% 00.29% 300243720 1305210.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AKo }


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 35.054% 34.86% 00.19% 157606104 853740.00 { 66 }
Hand 1: 64.946% 64.76% 00.19% 292734672 853740.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AKo }


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 25.835% 24.69% 01.14% 182641788 8466282.00 { ATo }
Hand 1: 74.165% 73.02% 01.14% 540140976 8466282.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AKo }

No disrespect, but calling a shove is at best slightly +EV with the strongest hands here. I'm really not sure why a player as good as yourself could claim it to be "really, really" anything.
12-07-2007 , 07:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shpanko
My month at 1-2. I is good


1. First thought, blahblahblah $5k month.
2. 2nd thought...wait, we're only a week into the month.

Nice job sir.
12-07-2007 , 07:04 PM
Sick BG
12-07-2007 , 07:07 PM
lol shpanko and bknight, I thought I was doing well

12-07-2007 , 07:08 PM
I just bought this chair.


http://www.ikea.com/nl/nl/catalog/products/40103100

It's amazing.

Pretty cheap also, compared to the big brand stuff.
12-07-2007 , 07:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PartysOver
jk3a light 4b/f guy: were most of these against a specific player?
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12-07-2007 , 07:10 PM
Nice chair. Looks comfy and psychedelic.
12-07-2007 , 07:16 PM
props to bgnight and shpanko. That really is a sick amount of money to make in a week while playing freaking 200nl.
12-07-2007 , 07:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jk3a
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 28.020% 27.80% 00.22% 83774068 667950.00 { 85s }
Hand 1: 71.980% 71.76% 00.22% 216255536 667950.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AKo }


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 33.293% 33.00% 00.29% 149194116 1305210.00 { 22 }
Hand 1: 66.707% 66.42% 00.29% 300243720 1305210.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AKo }


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 35.054% 34.86% 00.19% 157606104 853740.00 { 66 }
Hand 1: 64.946% 64.76% 00.19% 292734672 853740.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AKo }


equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 25.835% 24.69% 01.14% 182641788 8466282.00 { ATo }
Hand 1: 74.165% 73.02% 01.14% 540140976 8466282.00 { JJ+, AQs+, AKo }

No disrespect, but calling a shove is at best slightly +EV with the strongest hands here. I'm really not sure why a player as good as yourself could claim it to be "really, really" anything.
Do the math on the range Villain needs to be three betting for your four bets to show a profit as bluffs alone, because if they are felting this tight, what are they three betting with in the first place?
12-07-2007 , 07:28 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Double Eagle
Do the math on the range Villain needs to be three betting for your four bets to show a profit as bluffs alone, because if they are felting this tight, what are they three betting with in the first place?
Look, for these bets to show a profit on their own, they need to work atleast 60-70% of the time depending on exact bet sizing. Given the villains and the situation, I think it's very likely that the 4bets alone are very neutral EV in the long run.

But the metagame involved is where the real value is. Getting villains to slow down against you or stack off extra light the next time you 4bet but have it makes the 4bets "alone" def. +EV.
12-07-2007 , 07:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nielsio
I just bought this chair.


http://www.ikea.com/nl/nl/catalog/products/40103100

It's amazing.

Pretty cheap also, compared to the big brand stuff.

Dude, the Markus IS MINE, i bought that chair about a week ago and i will not allow others to take advantage of it. Markus 'aka' The Buyinbringer, will only bring luck to the Luske
12-07-2007 , 07:54 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jk3a
Look, for these bets to show a profit on their own, they need to work atleast 60-70% of the time depending on exact bet sizing. Given the villains and the situation, I think it's very likely that the 4bets alone are very neutral EV in the long run.

But the metagame involved is where the real value is. Getting villains to slow down against you or stack off extra light the next time you 4bet but have it makes the 4bets "alone" def. +EV.
OK you win, NH's
12-07-2007 , 08:07 PM
Good job shpanko.

Lots of hands holding up/winning plenty of flips?
12-07-2007 , 08:19 PM
lol maniacaments
Poker Stars $1.00/$2.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $354.85
Hero (CO): $239.80
BTN: $299.00
SB: $198.00
BB: $200.00

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with Q 9
1 fold, Hero raises to $7, 2 folds, BB calls $5

Flop: ($15.00) Q 3 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10, BB raises to $20, Hero calls $10

Turn: ($55.00) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $35, Hero calls $35

River: ($125.00) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $125, Hero calls $125

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $375.00
Hero shows Qc 9h (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
BB shows Ah 7h (a pair of Deuces)
Hero wins $373.00
(Rake: $2.00)
12-07-2007 , 08:38 PM
So I slept 8ish hours, and I think I'm taking the day off.
12-07-2007 , 08:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Keyser.
props to bgnight and shpanko. That really is a sick amount of money to make in a week while playing freaking 200nl.
Word. Nicely done, I'm still to crack 1k on the month, probably because I've played 5k hands.

      
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