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Ryan Fee's analysis on a couple hands Ryan Fee's analysis on a couple hands

09-27-2009 , 01:22 AM
just wanted some thoughts/clarification on his analysis of some hands.

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Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

kLuCk_U00 (BTN): $353.70
yoeri333 (SB): $127.55
THE Z-MONEY (BB): $679.65
NLdonkey (UTG): $406.15
Hero (CO): $459.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with 5d 7d
NLdonkey raises to $7, Hero raises to $24, 3 folds, NLdonkey calls $17

Flop: ($51.00) Ad 6h 7s (2 players)
NLdonkey checks, Hero bets $32, NLdonkey raises to $116, Hero folds

Final Pot: $115.00

The only thing I really want to mention about this hand is how bad his c/r is here. By c/ring here he is declaring that he is polarized, which basicaly makes my life super easy, I can just go with my good hands and fold everything else. There is no point for him to c/r here, anything for value that I'm going with will barrel off and anything bluffing is basically shutdown by his c/r. Also he doesn't protect the times he has 99-KK and decided to slowdown preflop. Awful c/r with just about any hand.
what does ryan mean when he says "also he doesn't protect the times he has 99-KK and decided to slowdown preflop".
he doesn't protect because he has opted to c/r?

and is there enough FE for UTG to c/r flop vs unknown CO 3bettor?

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Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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elmoant (BB): $483.70
calemoon (UTG): $224.05
NLdonkey (MP): $467.70
bkl3090 (CO): $68.40
jojohnny (BTN): $226.80
Hero (SB): $407.90

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with Kc Kd
calemoon raises to $7, 2 folds, jojohnny calls $7, Hero raises to $30, elmoant calls $28, 2 folds

Flop: ($74.00) 6c 9d 6d (2 players)
Hero checks, elmoant bets $36, Hero raises to $118, elmoant calls $82

Turn: ($310.00) Tc (2 players)
Hero bets $259.90 all in, elmoant calls $259.90

Final Pot: $829.80
elmoant shows Jc Jh
Hero shows Kc Kd

I have literally no history with this player what so ever. I just want to point out that:

1) I think when he flats like this he has AQ 99-QQ the majority of the time. When we get to the flop like this I think the way I can most likely get his stack is if I check and try to convince him I'm giving up. Also my range for checking is weaker than my range for betting so its a good spot to slowdown with a big hand.

2) When he bets I feel pretty good hes got a medium pair and is stupid (bc betting that pair is beyond awful here) and I can put him in a gay spot by c/ring and probably getting him to commit. I do and he does and ship. Frankly his play with JJ this deep and no history is awful he's dead here almost every time. His play should be flat-call preflop, check back or call flop. Depending on what pair he has poss check or bet turn, at very least get 1 street off on river. Try not to get it AI with jj here plz...
how bad is it to bet/fold jj on flop?

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Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN: $427.50
SB: $203.00
BB: $200.00
Hero (UTG): $893.05
MP: $679.05
CO: $188.10

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with A K
Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, CO raises to $27, 3 folds, Hero raises to $893.05 all in, CO calls $161.10 all in

Flop: ($379.20) 6 3 7

Turn: ($379.20) 3

River: ($379.20) 8

Final Pot: $379.20
Hero shows A K (a pair of Threes)
CO shows J A (a pair of Threes)
Hero wins $376.20
(Rake: $3.00)



For some reason I think people call shoves wider than they are willing to 5bet, which makes no sense unless they think you are only 4b shoving like small pairs or weak Ax or something. Anyway I've found that for 100BB shoving AK gets the most WTF results vs regs. Though I think maybe if I made it 6 and he made it 22 I might still just make it 48-50ish b/c such a ridic overbet but I think a shove is still ok.
agree?
so if villain is 4b shoving lightly then it is ok to call lighter than to 5bet. if not, 5bet frequency should be higher than calling 4b shoves?
09-27-2009 , 02:01 AM
can't speak for him, but pretty sure in the first hand he just means that if you only c/c with maringal hands that you will get owned when you do if the other person knows that.

      
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