The situation is typically a villain who has been raising otb atleast 30% of the time (less than that I tend to just call with mid pp) and im in the sb or bb with 77-TT (anything higher than TT is obv standard rr). I thought RR would be more profitable because im guessing 50% theyre just raising bull**** otb and might fold, or i cbet and take the pot down, or actually hit my set. Am I thinking about this correctly

Heres an example:

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked

UTG: $50.00
MP: $61.15
CO: $13.25
BTN: $31.40
SB: $97.85
Hero (BB): $74.05

Pre Flop: Hero is BB with 9 9
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $5, BTN calls $3.50

Flop: ($10.25) 7 8 Q (2 players)

I'm used to 3bet 99 from the blinds way less than I 3bet 44 for example. It cant be bad to 3Bet 99 here obv, but I think at NL50 you can call pre and value call a decent flop and show even more profit this way. But I'm not quite sure if this reasoning is sound as we are going to be oop.

On the other hand in a game where 3Bets are more regularly called pre TT eg seems to be fine as it is going to be ahead of their calling ranges.

If you dont have a crazy image you cant really 3bet 99 for value. If you can't 3bet a hand for value, it means your are 3betting it as a bluff. Now why would you want to turn a hand like 99 into a bluff?

How isn't hero 3betting for value? Isn't 99 way ahead of a typical button's calling range against a 3bet from the blinds?

When button calls the 3bet we usually face difficult decisions postflop, but that doesn't mean we aren't 3betting for value imo.

id rather reraise 44 here than 99

Seems a bit backwards. What's your exact logic?

Because we generally have to b/f or c/f both hands if he calls the 3 bet and 99 has way more one pair value which makes playing it in a single raised pot better.

Part of me thinks that b/c ppl ranges are sooo wide on the button (most). I can get more value by 3betting it against their trashy hands.. Actually as im writting this is think they would fold most of their trash and only call or 4bet with strong hands typically putting me in a flip b4 going to the flop....makes sense now!

So I should onyl 3 bet hands that im going to push or fold pf from the blinds like 22-66 QQ+? that seems to make sense? does this apply to mtts too?

thx guys

problem with coldcalling preflop is your hand/range is so face up (top pair or second pair trying to get to showdown)

and i'm not sure flatting big pairs/AQ AK sometimes is the best way to combat that

i'm experimentating with 3betting my whole range vs a competent btn open and i don't hate it ... yet pbb

Yes, its the right direction of thinking. There are exceptions, sometimes you 3bet so much that you can 3bet 99 for value cos he will defend with 88 or 98s very often. Sometimes there is a huge whale in the btn who will call your 3bet with Q2s. Soemtimes you want to unpolorize your 3betting range to becomes harder to play against.. etc. And don't mention mtt's here

I'd usually call pre-flop.


There's been good comments on it already.