i forgot to reload so I just went with it, sup?

lol pretty much i guess. Although I have some pretty hilarious full stack ones with him too.

Here's how incredibly I've been running for the past month. lol

I mean really? What better and easier board should i expect for me to take this line? Geez...

You are running terrible but still have 8BB/100 winrate. How much ipoker give you for promoting worst network ever? Who is better, you or Chuck Norris?

trust me im not trying to pick on you or anything. its just when i read over preflop I thought eww, taking pot multiway with aces and btn having ultimate position in a 3bet pot. eww. not saying it shouldnt ever be done, but that right there is already a little dicey. the result is just f crazy, but you showed 0 aggression with your aces and from a theory stand point failed to maximize,

Well, I obv had my reasons for my line. BB is a solid reg who I'm likely not getting any action from if I 4bet his squeeze and BTN, despite stack size, is a spewy fish. I have more specific reads, but, essentially this was the best way to try and keep the fish in the pot and squeezing some extra value postflop. I mean, I'm a good enough hand reader to get away from aces in the right situation. But, on this board, the hand just played out super ridiculously. If this guy has 53s in his range, I'm more than happy getting him in the pot pre.

Lol at berating his call preflop, wp nh.

''Oh noes I got aces, gotta hurry to put in the 488th raise in or cold 8bet so i'm not gonna get suckout''

lol right?

yeah nothing wrong with that line, especially postflop

this is not true and at all what I was implying. however, it would have been a better result in this particular case . everything i've been taught to anaylze a hand tells me this is an unfortunate result as a result of non optimal play that lead to a spot that isnt all that ev maximizing. these two factors rest on the premise that you are taking a flop deep with another player who has position on you with a hand that you should consider the nuts and is going to be very hard to escape on almost every non paired board texture, you might just end up going with it. leading to a much more maximizing ev strategy for btn who gets to take this flop and equity for a chance to bust you. i can make a lot more $$$ with btns hand here if you are going to have a hand like AA and be hesitant to go anywhere when i outflop you and when i do flop a piece, my range for getting it in this deep with position will be much stronger then aa. so automatically you lose money on the play. but most opponents wont be as good as me on btn, and you may find good folds with AA vs btns range occasionally, to the point that some could chalk it up to just purely running bad. but a little hand anaylsis and questioning a spot where theory wise you should be absolutely embaressed. with a bad ratio of getting $$ in good.

stop this strat BS and lets get back to insulting regs

insulting regs can be achieved passively thru higher level competence aka ownage of thought...while still educating them. all though few people digest advice/new perspectives well as they think they know something better.

phuck it

brontermuzne is a k8nt

shut up phaggot

doctor diagnosed me with internet tourette syn

lol

C'mon, I gave you my reads on the situation and AS PLAYED I took a higher variance line which, based on the table conditions, was absolutely the highest ev option. There's no debate about it. My reads, my play, 100% correct in this particular circumstance and I would take the same line again given the same players/conditions. Why would I let a fish off the hook on the BTN, while at the same time let a solid reg on the BB get away from JJ or even QQ here? Even if he doesn't get away from those hands, there is more to be won by letting the fish flop a ****ty draw or weak TP. I gave my explanation, yet, you continue to give a one-size-fits-all argument for why I should have 4bet. Just because 4betting is +ev does not make it the MOST +ev thing to do. Poker lines are about table conditions. Not static 20tabling +ev plays.

I disagree its the highest EV line. if flop comes 359r you are going to get your aces ai against the btn for a heck of a lot more then 100bb's. i never said you have to 4bet, but when you dont 4bet and you get this result (where postlfop its just a cooler and nothing is to be learned) then I would consider it running bad but not think its totally cool either. the situation already resulted in a spot you should be very critical of getting it in bad for the times that you are beat given the information on stacks and preflop action, that you should remember its one of the evils with how you did decide to play it before complaining about it. ill be the first to say I know nothing about static 20table +Ev plays, and I am all for creativity, but this is a very unique way of running bad. On playing your hands in questionable manners preflop and getting results that are out of your control postflop, but are very red flag areas.

you basically have such an awesome hand with 100bb that you can always stack off and it can never be bad multiway with a high psr already in.

when you are deep with the btn w/ 170bb eff now you have to be careful. what would make this spot a lot better? if I had position and was 170bb deep, but we dont.....button does.

Obviously it's always going to be better having position but he's a 'spewy fish', surely his positional advantage isn't going to matter as much as it usually would?

I also think he played the hand fine..

It's close either way but I also think flatting there is slightly better than 4betting, if you don't have a lot of 3/4betting war history so that you can expect him to jam 180bb light there. Even then if button is really bad I'd consider calling.

And 180bb really isn't deep at all when it's squeezed to 14bb pre, even if the fish ends up folding it'd be standard betbetjam for villain with all strong one pair hands on most boards.

fold pre ffs

BROTHERMUEZONE IS THE BEST REG AT 100NL EASY.

AJRLXXXX IS A DONK

CATDOG IS A RUN HOT DONK

BUBBLEBUTT IS DECENT

SMELLYBUG IS LOLOLOLOLAWESOME

UTDLEEDS IS A BORING BRAINDEAD TAG THAT WILL NEVER PLAY HIGHER THAN 100NL

SPACECOWBOY HAHAHAHAHHA

FRYFACE AND ALL THE OTHER SS'ERS CAN GET HIT BY BUSES

if anyone else wants credit, post your name and ill assess you.

cheers.

Bottom line, preflop villains call is OK, as he is getting a good price and he is going to flop a disguised hand and he has position, closes the action, plus the deep factor. Hero crushes flop and bets 1/2 pot to get action/value. Villain calls with a gutshot, and a backdoor FD. His call on the flop is terrible imo as even if he turns a FD, it is going to be tough to call another bet, so therefore he is calling drawing to 4 outs. He got lucky for his awful call, and now hero is venting, end of story.