I guess my friends just suck. Or I'm causing it, but I don't really brag or anything, I don't think

I might be slightly older than average also, just turned 28 (omfg). Give your friends a few years of soul crushing 9-5 work and see what happens.

it was just one guy right?

one guy said the mean thing, but i have another friend who I used to chat with on gchat who would make a lot of weird kinda bitter sounding comments about my life choices

now that I think about it both were somewhat involved in poker. one did okay in tourneys for a while and another dabbled in microstakes, so maybe it has something to do with them just not really making it (not like I really "made it" but you know)

i guess there's also my brother but he's always kinda hated me lol

i know i said "pre/non-poker friends" idfk why

kinda strange... the guys who I knew who were interested in poker but didn't rly make it to a pro/semipro level kinda look up to me. They often ask for poker advice and are supportive when I have a deep run in a donkament.

did have one non-poker friend who made some stupid comments about me "stealing" money from ppl (referring to the donks or other people I make money from at poker.)

well fwiw I have ONLY non poker friends and ti's just a hobby, (so different setup maybe than for you, but they know I sit A LOT on the computer playing) but they all think it's pretty cool for the easy money. Most people come up with the standard OMG TEACH ME TOO PLS, but apart from that no harsh feelings. I'd even say they are worried that I might invest too much time in it and fail my masters now (yeah kinda late on my thesis but whatever).

2 of my best friends ( 1 roommate) I gave some money to play online and one had fun for a couple of days with some german he hated BITTEWARTE and he still remembers his epic 10NL for 2 dollar battles lol so that's always a laugh and the other managed to make like 700 dollar on 10NL and 20NL before FTP got f00ked and just pays tickets and restaurants with that money. Oh yeah I helped him bink a tournament before xmas for like 1.5k or so and he wanted me to have 1k of that, because I did most of the work, but I declined and we settled on splitting.

i kinda wish you'd stop stealing money from people too, fwiw. lol stealing money.

most people suck incredibly hard. not sure if you guys have noticed.

most of my friends do not know anything about poker and the ones whom i'm close enough to talk about what i do have never shown any bitterness towards me. in fact the general response is one of "oooh coool" or "oh wow i can't believe i know someone who makes money from poker" and they have been pretty accepting despite the social stigma in my culture of "gambling" or playing cards. of cus i have never flaunted my money with my friends and i do not talk about amounts, mostly replying the question "how much have u made" with "i do alright for myself".
maybe perhaps because almost all my friends are pretty successful with where they r in their life right now (i.e first class honours at LSE, scholarships at prestigious unis, securing a job at KPMG 1 year before graduating, etcetc lol asians) so theres no reason to feel any bitterness. if anything i'm prob seen as the least successful of the group wrt future career prospects, but i doubt our friendship is based on trying to compete with each other.

regarding keyser's friend(s), no offence but you prob have to find better friends.

Also amurophil. We have a spare room in our appartment as one leaves so get your ass to uni in Belgium for a year

goofyballer ldo :P

I never got an odd comment or anything. Mostly "mmmh that's cool". I obviously don't run around telling people how much I make, just that it pays the bills. Noone has ever asked how much I make exactly...I think they probably assume I make way more than I actually do :P

Exactly this.

and this whole debate is easily settled by just doing whatever makes you the happiest or results in the most lifeEV, this varies so much from person to person. To each their own..

i could surf/grind/and chase girls for the next 10 years and be the happiest guy on the planet, im sure that will change, but for now...shipppp

LETS GO THUNDERRRRRRRR!

tbh I'm kinda surprised no one else has gotten any flak over poker. Or are you guys just saying no one in your close circle of friends has ever been bitter or whatever?

I can think of a lot of times when I've been criticized for just playing poker. My ex-girlfriend's mom was not approving of me at all. Would ask me stuff like "oh so are you still just doing the gambling?" She'd straight up tell my ex-gf that she didn't like me. But she doesn't even have a job so she can S my D.

I was out with my brother and his friends and it was like a tag team cage match. They all work for Republican politicians so this shouldn't be surprising, but they were all judging me very harshly. Like, "so what are your future plans? is this all you want to do with your life?" but with a pretty clearly negative and judgmental tone. They also tried to convince me that what I am doing is illegal. That's really annoying obviously because the way they live their lives to me is just as ridiculous as my life probably sounds to them.

I would assume that most all of us who are still around in poker were capable of being successful in other fields. I know in high school people probably would've thought that I'd have a good shot at being successful in whatever I decided to do. I can't think of the word for what this is called but I have friends who I have like a jokingly mean relationship with, like when we both just give each other a lot of **** (wtf is that word??), and they've said things like oh yeah Keyser is just wasting his life playing poker. That doesn't really bother me though.

You guys either run really good or I'm just very hateable.

jesus reading that post is pissing me off now lol. ****ING HATE PEOPLE. Cats > people

nah, ive encountered such people keyser, your not the only one. its usually ignorance that steers people toward these judgements though, and i try to distance myself from those type.

plus, girlfriends parents love to hate boyfriends so you were drawing slim there anyhow

i think we all go through phases and find fullment in different ways. i took a job right out of college like a good recent grad was supposed to do. after 4+ years of soul crushing 9-5 monotony, I have decided I would be happier having more freedom, and right now poker gives me that opportunity. I'm sure at some point the poker phase will pass and I will decide to do something more constructive, but until then im gonna do what makes me happy

do what makes you happy

"friends" who try to make you feel like **** for what you love to do aren't your friends

/end

+1

Thats a big commitment When does he leave?

Maybe that attitude you have comes through and makes people jealous/dislike you/whatever?

I've basically never had negative reactions, the majority are hugely positive, and I suck at poker. If I was actually making good money I can only imagine people would be more impressed.

I still think long term, just doing poker is a negative, but I would argue the same for anything. Putting all of your eggs in one basket, or being less balanced, is always going to be worse imo. I mean if you are still living in your home country, it seems criminal to at not least be studying part time while playing poker. You have a ****load of free time, use it to better yourself. I think just poker is bad, but poker + anything else is awesome, whether that be studying/travelling/working part time in a cool job.

I guess im just slightly jaded in the fact that I don't want to be playing poker as a profession when I am married/have kids etc, and while thats a while away, I think transitioning back into the real world is something that takes a while, and i'm getting to the stage that I might have to begin that soon. Oh and I suck at poker

september :d


also Keyser you should find friends that accept you for who you are, but truely do. Guys that give you **** for playing poker aren't real friends. They are either *******s or jealous types when you shouldn't be ever jealous over your friends. There is a difference between them caring about you and asking how you see your future, but like you said it's that condescending (spelling ok?) way that sucks.

At uni I have literally 1 friend in my class who I know 4 years now. All the rest hate me (except most of the girls lol), but I couldn't care less and show that. I literally wait till they walk over the road to the train station so I can pump my music, drop my shades and smile while driving my car.

Talking about everyone hating you...



:P

TAKE THAT NAZI'S!

Lololol that is actually amazing!

Two jummy wives haha (I'm assuming that's what it says)

yeah it does hahahahah going to be a great match. A llot of people are hoping that he'll play with Huntelaar and Van Persie behind him. Robben on the left and either Kuyt or Afellay right. Van bommel off and sneijder takes his spot.