vs good regs id fold 22 pre oop even 200bb deep but vs a guy who will stack off on pretty much any board, as shown above lol its not that bad

I get 250. I guess I'm too loose and old

Bluffguff, any update on your situation?

yeah def dont agree with this at all when we're this deep. especially v someone like him

dammit everytime i hear or see that word that d-bag pops into my head.

I'm doing a coaching session today and I need to make a vid for review, so I fire up a few tables to play a 45 min sesh, playing 1/2, 2/4, 3/6 and I make 2k in less than 350 hands, coaching is already working.

lol rush poker.

break even for 7.5k hands
run like GOD!!!!
break even for 23k hands

february was a rollercoaster and I played way too little hands. March is going to be a good month.

Same here, although I'm already down 10 buyins. FML.

Maybe this cool spiraly tree will bring me some run good and play good?

Full Tilt Poker $400.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

luckbox360 (SB): $412.00
Luck3yChance (BB): $406.00
Hero (UTG): $406.00
ComfyPants (MP): $406.00
turungen (CO): $404.10
borntarun (BTN): $442.30

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is UTG with Q J
Hero raises to $14, 4 folds, Luck3yChance calls $10

Flop: ($30.00) 9 6 3 (2 players)
Luck3yChance checks, Hero bets $18.00, Luck3yChance calls $18

Turn: ($66.00) 8 (2 players)
Luck3yChance checks, Hero checks

River: ($66.00) Q (2 players)
Luck3yChance checks, Hero bets $40.00, Luck3yChance raises to $155, Hero folds

Anyone call river here? Or bet turn? I figure my range looks fairly weak taking this line, is that more of a reason to call river? River is a clear valuebet right? Any thoughts welcomed. Oh and if u fancy sharing your hand or just general thoughts luck3y I would be very interested/grateful!

I'm never a huge fan of putting yourself in spots where you're folding 100% of your range unless you are certain your opponent is bad enough to not be capable of realizing or exploiting this. In that spot is seems incredibly simple to realize, so I would call unless I have reason to believe he's bad or if I don't expect to be playing with him much in the future. If you are behind seeing how exactly provides a ton of information on his game, be it via 33, 88 or even QQ or even other hands.

So you check back that river?

wtf-call.

you got bwuffed

meh i think you can fold that vs a lot of people at 2/4

Now that's crazy talk!

At least 70%?

Ill let the discussion go on a little more and then ill share my thoughts/ hand

I'm probably calling this because villain is good enough to realize flatting straight draws, double gutters and gutters is probably better than raising them on the flop so his range includes more hands he'd bluff with on the river (granted 75 also gets there).

Dunno what portion of his made hands/bluffs he'd CR (or check/call; CR river) on the turn which combined with heroes perceived barreling frequency in BvB is the key component of the hand

River Q is a good perceived bluffing card for a cbet,checkback,bluff river line (which reps a wider range and can be better than bet/bet if villain is decent but not taking it to the next level with river CR bluffs...alas I think villain is good enough to understand this)
tl;dr: I think villain is good enough that calling is fine

Might change if I have a note on villains OOP play, some villains would always CR the hands I'm assuming villain calls with because they don't want to play multiple streets OOP if possible. Actually the more I think about it the more I like a fold because villain will probably play a huge range of made hands this way compared to a relatively small range of non made hands. As I said 75 gets there and he'll probably not raise flop with sets/two pair by default. Turn also makes two pair for a couple of hands that call with a pair on the flop.
More importantly I think it's somewhat likely villain will CR some of the air hands in his range on the flop (overcards, specifically non Ax overcards but possibly also a good chunk of Ax)

tl;dr: fold

i dont think that lucky is spewey enough to be raising this river with air since he knows he reps very little. he isnt c/calling the flop with total air very often (if at all) when ur utg raiser and he's bb, and on the river he has no reason to turn any of the hands he c/called with on the flop into a bluff since like you said your range looks weak and you can easily have air here so he would prob just call with all his showdown value hands.

with all this being said, i dont think that he has to raise flop with a set 100%, and if he was deciding to c/c flop with a set and mayb c/r turn or something, then i would expect him to be checking that Q on the river to you as well once he misses the turn c/r since your gonna be vb a bunch of the hands that you are calling with anyways + bluffing the Q some of the time. soooo yeah i fold

what straight draws do you include in a solid villains range when UTG opens and he flats in BB? cant be too many

i think lucky has a set that decided to c/r river since it's not too often that hero has a hand that is willing to call a river lead based on the line taken but will probably call a c/r because it looks bluffy.

There are reasons to both call and fold river. The reason for calling is because villain can easily spaz out with 77/78 and see the Q and think "damn he got there, but no way he can call my c/r with just a Q." The reason to fold is, the majority of regs realize the Q isn't really a good bluff card after checking back the river so most regs aren't going to bluff the Q because it's rarely going to work so he knows whenever you bet here you have a Q and it's not likely you are going to fold. I'd probably call and get shown a better hand, but in this particular spot I don't think a fold is bad because you almost always have a Q when you bet and villain knows this and probably isn't trying to make you fold TP with relative little money in the pot.

Oh ignore my entire post somehow I thought it was BvB...I was actually wondering midpost how villain is OOP all of a sudden.
Lol coffee break time

Villain likely doesn't get to the turn with total air and likely CR all his good hands on the turn (since he can rep random turned draws and can expect hero to bet all his overpairs and probably some bluffs (two overcards) which he won't get more value out of anyways so picking up the extra bet is fine)
I think I like CR river as well with strong hands from villains POV because well AQ and KQ which should be in his UTG range got there (and I guess we can at least assume QJs for most heroes) and he won't be checking back TP

So overall his range is fairly strong on the river. Some of the hands villain gets to the river with as played may check/call (i.e. TT that he doesn't 3bet PF) but I think CR is a pretty good line for villain even with these hands because hero will probably have a hard time calling with Qx even readless (at least I'd assume that about most heroes) and well hero would have probably bet overpairs on the turn so his really strong hand range is pretty much nonexistant.
I guess if we give villain any sort of credit we almost have to call because it's kind of a perfect spot for him to bluff and I dunno with the checkback I think villain would lead his value hands often enough to make me lean call...ultimately it kinda comes down to what villain thinks of hero's turn checkback