*** OFFICIAL 2009 FTP REGS THREAD *** - Page 1291 - Small Stakes Pot Limit and No Limit

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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MannerPLZ (SB): $391.00
BuenazDiaz (BB): $200.00
Aggrobully (UTG): $803.10
sickbluffer (MP): $875.30
Hero (CO): $400.00
free tub (BTN): $146.85

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with K

Aggrobully raises to $6, 1 fold, Hero calls $6, 2 folds, BuenazDiaz calls $4

Flop: ($19.00) 6

(3 players)
BuenazDiaz checks, Aggrobully bets $14, Hero calls $14, BuenazDiaz folds

Turn: ($47.00) 8

(2 players)
Aggrobully requests TIME, Aggrobully bets $38, Hero calls $38

River: ($123.00) J

(2 players)
Aggrobully requests TIME, Aggrobully bets $94, Hero requests TIME, Hero calls $94

Spoiler:

call or ship the river?

9 combos of sets; 8 combos of AK; 6 combos of AA even if you assume he only calls half the AK -> ship all day (he may also have worse 2P combos if he's lose UTG). He's also probably going to open KQ UTG and may herocall it off once in a blue moon (I included that in the estimation of him calling it off with about half his AK)

tl;dr: Ship (with slight fistpumping)

12-11-2009 , 09:58 AM

#32252

mdm13

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,756

Quote:

Originally Posted by clowntable

idk about you but when someone flats two streets and then ships the river on that board that they probably dont have 77 lol. not that you cant bluff there but i mean if i got shoved on there and i had 44 and be like hmm.... i only beat KJ.

12-11-2009 , 10:16 AM

#32253

bluffguff

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 460

Quote:

Originally Posted by IpodToucher

Call is pretty horrendous.

Yeh loose call by him. Is it always a float with posistion on flop with this board texture? Or does it depend on opponent?

12-11-2009 , 11:08 AM

#32254

bluffguff

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 460

what time do people think is the most preofitable time to play ftp? Please use ft time. Thank you. GL

12-11-2009 , 11:30 AM

#32255

bandin

Coach NLHE

Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,871

friday nights/weekends FT time imo

12-11-2009 , 12:02 PM

#32256

ringinabox

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,071

Quote:

Originally Posted by IpodToucher

Call is pretty horrendous.

ehh seems pretty standard to me.

12-11-2009 , 12:14 PM

#32257

IpodToucher

veteran

Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,490

Quote:

Originally Posted by ringinabox

ehh seems pretty standard to me.

std 1/2 reg always overshoves river with missed spades/worse pairs?

12-11-2009 , 12:21 PM

#32258

ringinabox

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,071

Quote:

Originally Posted by IpodToucher

std 1/2 reg always overshoves river with missed spades/worse pairs?

Like I said earlier, I just can't see them doing this with a flush, it's either FH or a bluff and A4 is the only FH. I don't know, I guess it's not standard because I'd have no clue what kind of hand he could possibly have so I guess I would have to put him on exactely A4 even though that's a really weird way to play it. I'd be really confused, it's easy to say I'd call now but if I was involved in the hand I guess I may fold some % of the time.

12-11-2009 , 12:30 PM

#32259

saymond

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 10,251

Why can't he shove 45 or AQ or a flush? He almost always has the best hand. Just depends on leveling, and there aren't a ton of double floats in villains range afaik

12-11-2009 , 12:33 PM

#32260

albertoflaming0

journeyman

Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 279

Quote:

Originally Posted by ringinabox

I mean pretty much this I just think his whole value range is flushes and it's pretty ridiculous to overshove that much w/ flushes. Also, I had some timing tells.

Quote:

Originally Posted by saymond

Why can't he shove 45 or AQ or a flush? He almost always has the best hand. Just depends on leveling, and there aren't a ton of double floats in villains range afaik

Don't think there were fish in the blinds so I don't see him calling w/ 45. I discount AQ almost all the time because its standard to be 3betting on the btn w/ AQ at 1/2.

I don't know, might be a bad call but I thought it was close and not even really near bad at the time. Once again, I might be completely off base.

12-11-2009 , 12:38 PM

#32261

ringinabox

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,071

Quote:

Originally Posted by saymond

Why can't he shove 45 or AQ or a flush? He almost always has the best hand. Just depends on leveling, and there aren't a ton of double floats in villains range afaik

Because villians hands looks exactely like Kx and Ax if we're going for a value bet with a flush/4x he's probably folding to a shove a lot, so I just see those hands betting $80-$100.

As for the double floats, I completely agree this would confuse me the most, like I said I would have to put him exactley on A4, which I think he shows up with here a good % of the time.

Edit: I mean Qx in the 1st sent obv.

12-11-2009 , 12:39 PM

#32262

SirFelixCat

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 5,227

Quote:

Originally Posted by bandin

friday nights/weekends FT time imo

Maybe for every reg but me...my God do I hate playing on the wknds. Only reason I do is that I know I'm "supposed to crush" during this time, yet it usually is the opposite. :sadbanana:

12-11-2009 , 12:54 PM

#32263

pokeriseasy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,621

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoNt

gg buddy

Was a fun match. Nice come back.

cya soon.

GG to you too. You were absolutely crushing me but then I coolered you a couple of times. You are the 1st person I've played HU where they didn't make at least 1 call where I thought to myself "WTF is he calling me with?" There were a ton of river vbets I made that I were sure were getting paid off that just didn't.

12-11-2009 , 12:54 PM

#32264

clowntable

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 45,557

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdm13

Yeah may be true but people are bad, what can I say :P
I may play spastic enough to get looked up there more than other people though

12-11-2009 , 12:55 PM

#32265

pokeriseasy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,621

Quote:

Originally Posted by mdm13

Nit.

12-11-2009 , 12:57 PM

#32266

pokeriseasy

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 3,621

Quote:

Originally Posted by ringinabox

ehh seems pretty standard to me.

If you're a huge station who really sucks at poker.

12-11-2009 , 01:00 PM

#32267

icehawk84

old hand

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,725

If you guys have a lot points you're not using, spend it on the mini-FTOPS. Those things are sick juicy. I shipped 5th in one last night.

12-11-2009 , 01:13 PM

#32268

joshuadalton

adept

Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 1,122

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehawk84

If you guys have a lot points you're not using, spend it on the mini-FTOPS. Those things are sick juicy. I shipped 5th in one last night.

congrats on the not so thinly veiled brag

12-11-2009 , 01:17 PM

#32269

ringinabox

veteran

Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,071

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokeriseasy

you're a huge station who kinda sucks at poker.

fyp

12-11-2009 , 01:24 PM

#32270

icehawk84

old hand

Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,725

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshuadalton

congrats on the not so thinly veiled brag

ty, have to sneak in some shameless brags every now and then

12-11-2009 , 01:38 PM

#32271

saymond

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 10,251

Quote:

Originally Posted by albertoflaming0

I mean pretty much this I just think his whole value range is flushes and it's pretty ridiculous to overshove that much w/ flushes. Also, I had some timing tells.

Don't think there were fish in the blinds so I don't see him calling w/ 45. I discount AQ almost all the time because its standard to be 3betting on the btn w/ AQ at 1/2.

I don't know, might be a bad call but I thought it was close and not even really near bad at the time. Once again, I might be completely off base.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ringinabox

Yeah idk his preflop tendencies tbh but I can see flatting AQ being good if there are either fish in the blinds or if there are squeezemonkeys in the blinds, and flatting 45 is meh but again, it depends on his mood and tendencies. And I generally agree that you have Ax or Qx always but its pretty level 2 to just shove all value hands, and I think boats are not really different than any other value hand.

12-11-2009 , 01:39 PM

#32272

mw828

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 29,301

Quote:

Originally Posted by icehawk84

ty, have to sneak in some shameless brags every now and then

how much was that worth

12-11-2009 , 01:41 PM

#32273

mdm13

Pooh-Bah

Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 3,756

Quote:

Originally Posted by pokeriseasy

Nit.

i probably just induced a ton of river bluffs by posting that

12-11-2009 , 01:44 PM

#32274

saymond

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 10,251

chief_kz1 is like the worst reg in the world and I run so ****ing bad vs him

12-11-2009 , 01:45 PM

#32275

iggytt

banned

Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 894

The call with kj there is standard, i don't even know why people are questioning it. If the other player is a fish and calls off there with worse, then there's no need to post the hand since who cares he's a fish.

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