Winamax - €0.50 NL (5 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 90.8 BB
Hero (CO): 197.87 BB
BTN: 113.87 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 18)
SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 25.98, PFR: 21.11, 3Bet Preflop: 5.66, Hands: 3,333)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

Hero raises to 2.33 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.33 BB

Flop: (5.17 BB, 2 players) 2 J Q
BB checks, Hero bets 3.33 BB, BB raises to 11.33 BB, Hero calls 8 BB

Turn: (27.83 BB, 2 players) K
BB bets 21 BB, Hero calls 21 BB

River: (69.83 BB, 2 players) 9
BB bets 56.13 BB and is all-in,


I don't have stats on vilain i think playing the hand i had a bit of feeling that vilain might be a bit fishy aggro
Ok that call flop > raise ?
As played ok to just call turn ?
As played river ?

imo a little weak all around

bet more pre

consider reraising flop

with more in the pot from pre & flop we should be shoving this turn

Based on the flop play Idk why you think this runout is so bad.

Don't think anyone semi-decent is c/r this flop.

Happily snapping river as played.


I think you can x/jam the turn it try to click back the flop and see how villain reacts.

Definitely bet flop bigger vs this villain.

I think your villain will check raise alot of gutters and open ended straight draws on the flop, and then QJ, 22, and the very rare QQ, KK,AQ, AK, and AA,(he would 3 bet these hands preflop but rarely he might choose to slowplay these). But overall IDK if your villain would choose to bluff this spot given this flop hits anyones given UTG range pretty hard. Calling the raise on the flop is good cause he will most likely barrel any turn and keep bluffing if he is. However if you have some kind of read on ur opponent where hes only check raising value here, you should definetly try to just get this in here incase a bad runout comes out and you cant stack him.

On the turn, its kind of a bad turn for you, some of his bluffs like A10 and 10-9 got there. His only straight draw that didnt get there is KT, 10-8 suited, 98 suited. But maybe if for some reason he was raising KQ he now has 2 pair, if he was raising AK suited or not (but he most likely raised this preflop flop) he now has TPTK with a flush draw and straight draw. I think given his stack size I would just go with your hand here and hope your villain has a worse value hand, your hand is too good and your rarely drawing dead unless he has a slowplayed QQ or KK hand but thats so rare cause usually people would 3bet that preflop, and theres alot of bad rivers that will put you in a very tough spot, and he can successfully bluff many rivers.

OTR, is a gross river, as played I dont fault you for folding, all of his flop check raise bluffs got there except 98 but if he had 98 of clubs he now has a flush.. You can still beat QJ and 22, but IDK if he would bet this on or any worse value hand on the river, because its possible you can have a straight in this spot. The fact that its possible you can have a straight here makes it very unlucky he would try to bluff you in this spot. Its bad but yeah I dont mind a fold, rare times you might fold the best hand here but as played i think in the long run a fold is good.

Overall just get it in on the turn and you'll avoid the mess on the river.

folding

t9 and at potentially in his range. QJ/22 doesn't ship it.

I think pre and flop are great. I like calling the turn rather than shipping because were in position and I think hes bluffing river a lot here when it blanks, probably more so than he should be. River is bleh but I can't blame you for calling. from my chair at home im saying fold river and tell ourseleves that 95% of the time were not folding when we flop this good, this is one of those 5% situations. But I also know theres a good chance I call then and there and honestly its probably not even a mistake to do so based on our read about villain and the odds we are getting. River is super close and its just a question of balancing + live read vs. optimum strategy if our opponent ignores our call river stats and doesn't take notes, which is probably true at 50NL. I think one statement we can make is that if we are calling river we should be shipping turn. The reason why we call turn is to fold the 9c and Tc on the river.

some vils can turn over ATo type stuff here and all sorts of Tx bd/gutshots. looks like an easy pitch river not to mention BD flush draws got there

I'd rip turn against this fish, not really sure what the benefit of flatting is. We're not folding brick rivers anyway, and we don't want him to get second thoughts with his 1pair and 2pair hands on rivers like this (which I think is a big part of his range when he leads).

I would re raise flop. Try and get all the money in

what hands do you expect him to bluff river with? on this runout, most people will not be turning pairs in bluff on nl50 or bet turn with no equity hands, so don't know how is this runout not bad?

I expect him to jam worse for value and spaz some non-zero part of the time with random stuff. Plus I doubt backdoor flush draws are playing the flop that way.

But yea agree with Nirwanda about jamming turn.

FOLD. Too many hands beat you. 4-card str8 and a flush board. Who shoves into all that? Yes, I know I do. But most won't without a big hand.

So yea thanks for all the answers
I did end up calling
the end of the hand (even if it doesn't matter obv) :


Winamax - €0.50 NL (5 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 90.8 BB
Hero (CO): 197.87 BB
BTN: 113.87 BB (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 12.50, Hands: 18)
SB: 100.5 BB (VPIP: 25.98, PFR: 21.11, 3Bet Preflop: 5.66, Hands: 3,333)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

Hero raises to 2.33 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.33 BB

Flop: (5.17 BB, 2 players) 2 J Q
BB checks, Hero bets 3.33 BB, BB raises to 11.33 BB, Hero calls 8 BB

Turn: (27.83 BB, 2 players) K
BB bets 21 BB, Hero calls 21 BB

River: (69.83 BB, 2 players) 9
BB bets 56.13 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 56.13 BB

Hero shows J J (Three of a Kind, Jacks)
(Pre 71%, Flop 94%, Turn 82%)
BB shows T Q (Straight, King High)
(Pre 29%, Flop 6%, Turn 18%)
BB wins 173.77 BB

Not trying to be results oriented here, but if your read is that he's aggro and fishy why not GII on the flop? Calling has good merits too, but not shipping the turn is criminal IMO.

One reason to ship a flop that people seem to forget... It's not so much that you should fear being sucked out on. It's that alot of runouts can kill action from hands that would otherwise pay you off. If an overly aggressive fish wants to stack off light, you should oblige before something can come which either changes his mind or forces you into a tough decision.

I think you can gii OTT, as played I would fold river just because a lot of his x/r hands have a T in it and his x/r valuehands OTF are also counterfeit OTR as well, so he prolly slows down.. if you jam OTT he's calling with his valuehands & draws as he has to pay 50bb in a 200bb pot?
if you just call OTT, will he barrel the river for a half pot bet? assuming he knows a bit about poker ( you got 3.3K hands on him) he knows he has got little FE ..

I agree with everything else in the post except this.