his turn c/r with any value hand is just terrible but people do, in fact, play terribly

Why is it terrible? He makes his hand look like something it is not - that can't be terrible. If he c/r there with a draw only then that's much worse imo.

his play is not "terrible". as much as that seems like an easy word to use so you don't have to explain your standpoint.

his play isn't exactly optimal though, as hes trying to pinpoint villian (heros) range to very specific hands, and playing exploitatively because of it. if his read was correct his play was certainly maximizing his potential gain in that specific spot. now, what I think you take issue with is it's not balanced, and I agree. now if his intention was to play exploitatively and not balanced, the only issue is his assumptions of ranges, and if they are off by a fraction this could be a losing play.

likely a sketchy read/line? yes. "terrible play"? a little unlikely given results + responses in this thread.

Sometimes you just have the feeling that check-raising turn as pf aggressor would be cool - dynamics, flow whatever - feeling you have a K and can't fold or something . I don't hate his play, it's good to get stacks in there against TPGK.

Don't know what I would do with KQ as hero though, sometimes call, sometimes fold.

his turn check is really bad and he's lucky the hand turned out this way imo

just wondering, everytime u check this turn as villian ur only c/c and c/f right? and as hero KQ should = any pair, so that means u should always call a chk/r because villian ALWAYS has a draw or nothing?....not that it matters at all, i agree i dont like villians play.

nice posts dark