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NL100: Two 3way pots NL100: Two 3way pots

05-23-2008 , 02:12 PM
Villain in hand 2 is button here in hand 1. These hands were right near the start of the session so no stats. Only read is that he was opening more in LP so I assume he's positinally aware.

Is the flop check bad in hand 1? I'd bet it if board were 2 tone, but given peoples tendency to auto bet any time it is checked to them on the button I thought I could play pot control over one street. I also would get to see the shortstacks (BB) reaction if villain bet flop. I'd bet the river here even had I not made 2pair.

Hand #1
$100 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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Hero (CO): $100.00
BTN: $105.53
SB: $111.43
BB: $30.47
UTG: $62.53

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with 4 A
1 fold, Hero raises to $3.30, BTN calls $3.30, 1 fold, BB calls $2.30

Flop: ($10.40) T 8 A (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN checks

Turn: ($10.40) Q (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7.50, BTN calls $7.50, BB folds

River: ($25.40) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $17, BTN calls $17

He had QJo.


Given that light call down in hand 1, should I just be b/f all streets here?
Not sure I like my turn check (was looking to c/f).
Once he checks the turn I'm pretty sure I have the best hand so put out 2/3 pot on the river as I think he has TT-88 or a pair that had a straight draw . Too much on river? 1/2 pot better?

Hand #2
$100 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Hero (MP): $128.50
CO: $111.38
BTN: $130.18
SB: $82.13
BB: $62.48
UTG: $94.97

Pre Flop: Hero is MP with J J
UTG raises to $4, Hero calls $4, 1 fold, BTN calls $4, 2 folds

Flop: ($13.50) 7 6 4 (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $9.90, BTN calls $9.90, UTG folds

Turn: ($33.30) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($33.30) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $20,
05-23-2008 , 02:30 PM
dont think on the 2nd hand he's calling you a good amount of the time without hitting an A or a Q... probably just check that and let him bet into you and make a crying call hoping he's bluffing at it. He could be calling you with low pocket pair thinking you missed and floating you but I think if you check river and call you will make more money with this move. Unless he's a fish that will call you down with low pocket pair on the river
05-23-2008 , 02:35 PM
Hand 1 bet flop b/f turn if raised easy value on river.

Hand 2 I prob bet turn sometimes if opponent is decent to get value from 55 and 88-TT and he knows A is a good bluff card. As played I prob check and based on his bet size decide if I call or not.
05-23-2008 , 02:46 PM
In one I would bet the flop. It's not the most drawy but there's a lot of broadway straights and two pairs that could get there or possibly peel one off when you are ahead. The turn and the river are fine, obviously insta-muck if raised.

In 2 I actually like checking the turn. The ace is a good bluff card so maybe he will put you on a pp which is likely what he has and try to take it down. Once he checks behind I'd probably just check call because you look so weak after checking twice if he bluffs at all he may try to take it down with anything, and if he had one of the few flop draws they all bricked so maybe he'll bluff that in position
05-23-2008 , 03:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by daveh07
dont think on the 2nd hand he's calling you a good amount of the time without hitting an A or a Q... probably just check that and let him bet into you and make a crying call hoping he's bluffing at it. He could be calling you with low pocket pair thinking you missed and floating you but I think if you check river and call you will make more money with this move. Unless he's a fish that will call you down with low pocket pair on the river
The only hand I see him betting the river with that I beat is like 5x or 98.

Since a lot of his 5x hands have a pair too he may just check behind. He also showed in hand 1 that he calls light in a situation where I'm rarely bluffing, so I thought I'd let him do the same again.
05-23-2008 , 03:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by klior
Hand 1 bet flop b/f turn if raised easy value on river.

Hand 2 I prob bet turn sometimes if opponent is decent to get value from 55 and 88-TT and he knows A is a good bluff card. As played I prob check and based on his bet size decide if I call or not.
Agree the A is a good bluff card, but given I'm not the pfr I should never have an A here on the turn given I bet the flop 3 way. I just thought betting the turn here looks very strong, and lets him get away from TT-88, whilst he's raising 2 pair and sets on the turn pretty often.
05-23-2008 , 03:10 PM
2-hand.after utg raise and your call b/f with big pair he probably would raise.there is enough money in the pot,with AK probably also,not for sure.after check and your bet on the flop, his very likely hand two overcards.with pair like 88 OR 99 he could reraise.(you just called p/f).i think you have to bet the turn.yes he could call on the flop with A7,(UNLIKELY P/F).but if you check and he bets,are you going to fold or reraise?with bet on the turn you define your hand.he reraise you fold.if he calls you are brobably beaten,and folds if he bets on the river.i think you have to check THE river.his likely hands KQ,KJ,QJs.i dont see weaker hand he can call with.and if he even has pair like 88 OR 99. he is not going to bet on the river after your check with 2 overcards on the board.

Last edited by fortunato 69; 05-23-2008 at 03:23 PM.

      
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