ur an idiot.

my point about folding top 2 here is that IF you fold top 2 here, you're folding too much of your range in a spot where people bluff ALOT. you can fold weaker hands here instead.

i don't get why you keep lecturing me and giving me all these links when literally everyone on this forum thinks your advice is garbage and you should stop posting. please address this paragraph before you ever respond to my posts again.

take a breather fellas.

lead the turn as a bluff??

fold flop or call turn/river, esp w/ villain's sizing

Who nominated you to speak for the forum? Also, I can say whatever the hell I want. ****** fascist.

I provided useful information to the thread. Youre just being stubborn.

Finally, I still think your reasoning is flawed. You think people will bluff in this spot alot so you want to check call twice. I think with a read bet to induce is better. Without a read a lead can accomplish quite a bit. Your strategy will not work longterm VS A GOOD REG WITH OPTIMAL BLUFFING FREQUENCY. This is basic game theory.

Kagame, what bluffs are you repping if you lead the turn?

i lead many made hands. so basically my entire value range. It basically causes KT to not be at the top of my range.

This is spot on and I don't see much else can be said about this hand. You have a bluff-catcher and so it comes down to frequencies.

Re: Kagame: this guy is taking over the forum with his 5nl advice. Nobody minds an honest attempt to dissent from popular consensus, but at some point it seems reasonable to establish whether he actually plays SSNL, especially since he is so confrontational.

1rst: stop talking down to people
2rth: you are saying that leading is better than c/calling because c/c can't stand a and i quote "REG WITH OPTIMAL BLUFFING FREQUENCY", but we are facing a normal reg, if you want you can say "what if he was a reg with optimal bluffing frequencys???" and we can discuss that.
3nd:why is leading better than c/c against a reg with optimal bluffing frequency according to you?

we voted last week, you weren't there???

God 2p2 can be full of internet nerds who so desperately want to be right in front of random strangers they will never meet or know.

Let's be constructive people.

ok, i just got sick of him talking down to people in every thread, sry for hijacking you thread

well it needed to be said to the douche.

lololol kagame go learn from the micros b4 u start reading ssnl, and way b4 u start posting in ssnl

Again, thanks for all the free information about your thought processes. None of you know anything about how I play. Basically I have the best image available if any of you play me in the future.

Also, I've made all of the threads I've participated in better. Debate = better information flow. One sided discussion with no elaboration doesn't help anyone.

If you don't think I play SSNL come look for me on Merge. I'll be grinding many tables of 50NL 6 max or waiting for you to try to crush me at hu 100NL. Bring it.

As for the question about how it is impossible to defeat someone with optimal bluffing frequency by check calling with a marginal hand...

Your opponent isn't making money by bluffing you. He's breaking even on his bluffs. However he is crushing you with his value bets.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluff_%...fing_frequency