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I have to get it in behind I have to get it in behind

01-08-2008 , 12:09 PM
Prima Poker skin
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: €1/€2
6 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: €343.07
UTG+1: €100.11
Hero: €242.55
Button: €86.78
SB: €375.07
BB: €198.10

Pre-flop: (6 players) Hero is CO with A 2
UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to €9, 2 folds, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: K J 5 (€28, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets €19, BB calls, UTG folds.

Turn: T (€66, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets €51, BB raises to €102, ...


I just want to check something...

Now he is giving me pot odds of about 19% (51/270), so even though I'm behind here I have to call, right? I am certain I have no fold equity against this villain at all, so pushing would be a mistake, since then I'd be putting in 70 more (villain has 70 behind) which would be odds of 30% (51+70/396).

So I just have to call and hope for a flush, and fold the river if I miss. Is this correct, or am I missing something?
01-08-2008 , 12:10 PM
well you have to call now because of pot odds, but the question is if you should have bet the turn in the first place, probably not.
01-08-2008 , 12:14 PM
Well, he could have been floating me or have have a lone K or J that he might fold. I pick up a gutshot in addition to the flush draw and the overcard. Seemed like a good time to double barrel.
01-08-2008 , 12:14 PM
yes, just call here. and stack off if you hit a flush or straight.

and don't bet the turn next time. I'm not resultoriented now, I just think that a T often improves his hand to a straight, 2pair, pair + oesd very often and he will go for a c/r.
01-08-2008 , 12:16 PM
I bet this turn pretty often so I can shove river if I improve, leak?
01-08-2008 , 12:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by riske
I bet this turn pretty often so I can shove river if I improve, leak?
Q9/AQ got there, and alot of one pr hands on the flop just turned 2pr or picked up a str8 draw. I votes fer check turn.

Last edited by Panthro; 01-08-2008 at 12:27 PM.
01-08-2008 , 12:25 PM
All good points, but in my defense. The guy has a Cold Call% of 34% over 800 hands (which is ridiculous), he folds to a cbet 38% of the time and to a second barrel 67% of the time. That, plus the fact I picked up some extra outs on the turn makes it a little less of an error I feel. Although it's probably still not a good spot to bet the turn.
01-08-2008 , 02:34 PM
I believe you should check the turn. The fact that he folds to 2nd barrels doesn't really apply because I really can't see him folding anything on the turn that he called on the flop. I mean all broadway combos are now peeling again or putting the pressure on.
01-08-2008 , 02:41 PM
Definetly a check on the turn especially because you're making it seem like this guy is a fish who very well could have called you on the flop with a gutted straight draw or somehting like J10/K10. Too many hands are c/r you here so check behind and if you hit your flush he will most likely pay you off, if not and he checks to you now is your time to give him the 51 he earned by checking the turn

      
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