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Old 01-08-2009, 10:33 AM   #1
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I folded KK preflop

Villian is a nitty reg. (18/12) I have 7K hands logged on him and his 4 bet is 1.2%. I figured that is AA and KK only. Given I had KK I really thought he had AA. Surely this cant be a bad spot to fold KK pf?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
SB ($104)
BB ($23.25)
UTG ($99)
UTG+1 ($100)
CO ($100)
Hero ($292)

Dealt to Hero KK

fold, check, CO raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $14, fold, fold, fold, CO raises to $100, Hero folds,

CO wins $30.50
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:37 AM   #2
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Re: I folded KK preflop

the only commentary i can give to this hand is to tell you that i cannot give it any commentary
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:38 AM   #3
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Re: I folded KK preflop

you're basically 50/50 against a 1.2% 4bet range (QQ+) Still I cannot see myself folding KK PF, maybe that's why I stack off with it so much
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:38 AM   #4
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Re: I folded KK preflop

Well you can see hole cards, so this is obv standard.
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:38 AM   #5
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Re: I folded KK preflop

lol, folding KK preflop 6max 100bb deep, lol
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:39 AM   #6
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Re: I folded KK preflop

Why would he 4betshove AA and no other hands? I think you got owned by his AK here a ton.
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:43 AM   #7
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Re: I folded KK preflop

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you're basically 50/50 against a 1.2% 4bet range (QQ+) Still I cannot see myself folding KK PF, maybe that's why I stack off with it so much
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Why would he 4betshove AA and no other hands? I think you got owned by his AK here a ton.
I used to 3bet shove a wide range, including KK+, but also mid pairs, suited aces, etc.

Folding KK preflop on iPoker is probably the dumbest thing ever. You got owned there by a mid PP i'd say.

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Old 01-08-2009, 10:43 AM   #8
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Re: I folded KK preflop

So did you 3bet KK for information?

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Old 01-08-2009, 10:44 AM   #9
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Why would he 4betshove AA and no other hands? I think you got owned by his AK here a ton.
Been said and I think I said it as well, he's only 100bb deep, you have Kk and you need to call, his 4bet range is insanely tight QQ+ over 7k hands, but i'm sure he is able to make a move with AK, 10s-QQ here as well if he feels you're full of ****, can't see a fold here anywhere PF
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:45 AM   #10
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Re: I folded KK preflop

bubaloo why are you up? where do you live?
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:51 AM   #11
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Re: I folded KK preflop

-Because sleeping is only fun for 12 hours.
-UK.

edit: why are you up? inundated with coaching requests?
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:56 AM   #12
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Re: I folded KK preflop

I am an insomniac.

I hired a personal assistant to take care of all my coaching requests.
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Old 01-08-2009, 10:59 AM   #13
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I hired a personal assistant
Ah yeah, i remember goofy saying he got a new job.
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:00 AM   #14
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Re: I folded KK preflop

I heard goofy lost his virginity.
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:00 AM   #15
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Re: I folded KK preflop

Those 2 might be connected.
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:01 AM   #16
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Re: I folded KK preflop

I'm going to wal mart then best buy peace!
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:15 AM   #17
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later
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:21 AM   #18
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Re: I folded KK preflop

lol u played this hand so god-damn cocksukingmother****ing bad its unbelievable.

1.2% is QQ+ (not KK+)

and with so much investet u simply lit money on fire
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:26 AM   #19
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Re: I folded KK preflop

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lol u played this hand so god-damn cocksukingmother****ing bad its unbelievable.

1.2% is QQ+ (not KK+)

and with so much investet u simply lit money on fire
Nope, Pokerstove it. 1.4% is QQ KK and AA.
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:29 AM   #20
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Re: I folded KK preflop

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Nope, Pokerstove it. 1.4% is QQ KK and AA.
Get a grip of yourself, man
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:32 AM   #21
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Re: I folded KK preflop

folding KK is a sin
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:33 AM   #22
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Re: I folded KK preflop

YOU MUST CALL!
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:33 AM   #23
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Re: I folded KK preflop

outplayed by a nitty reg.
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:39 AM   #24
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Re: I folded KK preflop

This is no where near thread-worthy.
Folding here is just ******ed on so many levels.
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Old 01-08-2009, 11:53 AM   #25
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Re: I folded KK preflop

i did once fold KK preflop to a guy who 3 bet me and his preflop raise was less than 1% from over 1000 hands. but i can't find a fold here.
i'd be more inclined to assume AA if he'd re-raised to about $45. a good reg would know he's losing value by shoving so big here if he has AA.
bad fold imo
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