05-30-2006 , 07:10 PM
Take the number PT reports in the BB/Hand column with the "On Steal" filter applied and multiply that number by 100 to get your BB/100 on steals. Compare this to your regular BB/100 winrate on all hands.

M
05-30-2006 , 07:42 PM
bookmarked.
05-31-2006 , 03:15 AM
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Take the number PT reports in the BB/Hand column with the "On Steal" filter applied and multiply that number by 100 to get your BB/100 on steals. Compare this to your regular BB/100 winrate on all hands.

M
I understand this. Is there any reason why this should be at least double your winrate?
05-31-2006 , 05:12 AM
thanks, great post. added to favorites
05-31-2006 , 12:35 PM
This is an excellent post. I think I'm going to attempt to write the SQL to create a report that would allow me to quickly get a print-out of all my stats with the appropriate filters applied.

If anyone has already written some of the SQL queries please send me a PM and I'll start compiling them into a single report.
05-31-2006 , 01:27 PM
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thanks, great post. added to favorites
06-05-2006 , 06:35 AM
06-05-2006 , 08:48 AM
06-05-2006 , 11:59 AM
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Take the number PT reports in the BB/Hand column with the "On Steal" filter applied and multiply that number by 100 to get your BB/100 on steals. Compare this to your regular BB/100 winrate on all hands.

M
I understand this. Is there any reason why this should be at least double your winrate?
Meh, double was arbitrary. If I were writing it now, I'd say it should be more like quadruple, but that's still just a vague rule.

If I really wanted a number to compare, I'd probably take the reported per-hand winrate, multiply by 100, and multiply by my VPIP (as a fraction). I'll use my numbers as an example:

Over the last 3,710 hands at \$100NL, I've had a winrate on blind steals of 1.65 PTBB/hand.
Multiplying by 100, that's a winrate of 165 PTBB/100.
My VPIP has been 26.77%, so multiplying we get 165*(0.2677) = 44.2 PTBB/100. That should be larger than my regular winrate.

The reasoning behind this math is that our winrate is over the hands that we actually *play*. If we have a winrate of 6 PTBB/100 but a VPIP of 20%, that means that on the 1/5th of hands we actually choose to play, we win an average of 30 PTBB/100, and then on the 80% we don't play, we win nothing. Since the "blind steal" filter automatically focuses exclusively on hands where we are playing, our winrate should be much higher -- multiplying by your VPIP gives you more of an apples-to-apples comparison.

The main point is that you need to compare your blind-stealing winrate to a higher number than your overall PTBB/100 or else you're deceiving yourself into thinking you're doing a great job when you might not be.

Blind steals should be VERY profitable since you're in the most advantageous situation that the game can offer. If you can't post a SOLID win on your blind steals, you need to reconsider your strategy.
06-05-2006 , 12:03 PM
Thats funny you posted that today, I was reviewing my stats and got all excited cause mine was extremely high compared to my PTBB stats. I feel cruel though and am having difficulties with the moral implications of blind stealing. Perhaps I should hold my breath until this sensation go's away.
06-05-2006 , 12:04 PM
Thank you
07-07-2006 , 10:15 AM
awesomeness, good work Pokey
07-07-2006 , 10:31 AM
omg, how did i miss this? thanks for the bump.

Awesome post. Thank you.
08-13-2006 , 12:47 AM
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Pokey - do these numbers and suggesstions apply for full ring, 6-max, or doesn't it matter?
It has been mentioned several times on this thread and I'm just wondering if there should be any differences (and if so, what are they) for 6-max games?
08-13-2006 , 01:41 PM
When I hit this I get a red nummber and when I click "not a blin" or "put vol money in" it goes green. for point nr 5 to be correct dont u have to click "not a blind" or? is this my leak maybe what are "good nr" here in that case. Im a limit player have above 50k of hands and have "good" stats on the other points

I just finished 10k hands of dime NL full ring at Stars and am using this thread to evaluate.

I'm pleased to report that I'm looking good in all areas and will now take up 6max at the same blind level.

(I am a proud father of a young family and don't get to play as much as I'd like, and have raided bankroll a number of times for groceries n' stuff.... but I envy you guys who have moved on to high limit play somewhat... /disclaimer)

Anyway. I learned my heads-up play from that section of HPFAP and I'm in positive territory on both the settings, so you might want to go back over that section.

I give 'em straight hell heads-up unless they absolutely show me a reason to drop.
08-13-2006 , 03:21 PM
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It has been mentioned several times on this thread and I'm just wondering if there should be any differences (and if so, what are they) for 6-max games?

Wow; I haven't looked at this thread in quite some time, so let me see....

I originally wrote it when I was playing full-ring but I really don't see anything that needs heavy adjustment for six-max. The only point that could use some tweaking is #2, since having a Button VPIP double that of your UTG VPIP is going to be hard at a six-max table. I still think the 50% guideline is sensible, though.

Most of this stuff was pretty table-neutral.
08-15-2006 , 02:50 PM
Pokey, this is great stuff, and thank you.
09-11-2006 , 04:11 AM
awesome post, thanks a lot
09-11-2006 , 05:31 AM
domo arigatoo mr pokito
09-12-2006 , 06:21 PM
thanks.
09-16-2006 , 09:07 AM
I got linked here from another post. Great info, thanks!
09-18-2006 , 11:27 AM
Perhaps this is a n00bish query but here goes.

I've been playing full-ring on the Tribeca network for the last month or so, and I use PT. Now I'm beginning to play 6-max. What I want is to have a different set of stats for each game type. Does anyone have any advice on how best this is done? Thanks in advance.
09-21-2006 , 07:59 PM
Pokey, I think you should have this as your epitaph on your grave stone. This is such a good thread it should be compulsive reading for everyone who posts on the forum! I return to it to help me check my play every month. I'm still having trouble with JJ and 99 but it's getting better and I wouldn't of picked it up with out this piece of genius.

Once again, thank you.
10-05-2006 , 03:19 AM
Bumping for great justice!

And to say thanks, Pokey.
10-08-2006 , 12:20 AM
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I should hold my breath until this sensation go's away.

goes?

m