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Is this a cooler? Is this a cooler?

11-29-2016 , 08:27 PM
Live cash game 1/2 nm hold em, 6 handed, Im sitting on 180$, BB has like 350$ and Utg has like 240$
Utg raises to 8, im on the button and flat with 98 off, big bling who id a very tight player calls.
Flop comes 7-5-5 ( 2 spades) bb checks, preflop raisers c bets for 10, i decided to call for 2 reasons I can hit my gut shot for the nut straight and for floating as well cause i know i can outplay the raiser in position post flop, so i called and bb calls ( I didnt expect this), turn brings a Red six so now i got the nut straight, BB checks, utg bets 30$, so now i had a decition should i just flat call or raise? The board got really heavy drawed and if i raise in this pot i know for sure im getting called by AA,KK, A5, and even queens. So decided to raise to 75$ and unexpectly the bb check raises me all in, utg tanks for alot of times and finally folds, after she folded i had about 70 left and i thought i was pot commited so i called and he shows me 66 making a full house on the turn.
I probably should have just flatted the turn or raise-fold the river since my hand couldnt improve.
11-29-2016 , 11:16 PM
It is a cooler in absolute hand strength sense but it's also a cooler you could get away from. Fold pre. "but I can outplay him in position post flop". Fold pre, fold pre, and then fold pre again. Hard to call a hand that should've never been in the hand in the first place a "cooler".
11-30-2016 , 01:07 AM
It's not a cooler, you are just bad. Preflop is bad. Flop is bad. Turn you should fold to BB's raise, his range is same hand as you and full houses, but mostly full houses.
11-30-2016 , 02:13 AM
Ffs stop thinking you can outplay people with 9 high. You'll lose money 100% guaranteed. It's a 4x UTG raise: just muck it.

As played, cooler. He can have trips or dummy straight, or same hand.
11-30-2016 , 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
He can have trips or dummy straight, or same hand.
well, actually given that OP stated that bb is a very tight player and action went bet, we raised, and bb check raised both of us, I doubt it's ever just trips or dummy straight
11-30-2016 , 12:30 PM
Just because 90% of 1/2 live fish play tons of trash hands doesn't mean you have to.

Fold pre

Fold flop

As played, if you really know you get called by utg with overpairs the raise is correct imo and once we raise I don't think we should be folding this getting better than 4 to 1 just because BB is tight. There always a chance he is doing something wacky like trying to protect a 5
11-30-2016 , 05:26 PM
You wanna know how to outplay these guys?

Narrow your range and value bet the crap out of them

As played, its kind of a cooler, but i agree with the guy who said "its a cooler you can get away from"
11-30-2016 , 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Mad1Lee
well, actually given that OP stated that bb is a very tight player and action went bet, we raised, and bb check raised both of us, I doubt it's ever just trips or dummy straight
You think he mucks A5s pre from the BB when theres a BTN caller? Also if people get bored even tight players will start calling SCs. And if he did have a dummy straight or K5s/A5s, I doubt he would fold to our turn raise os just coldcall.

He called the flop bet with 66 when there was a bet and call. He's probably not as tight as OP states he is
11-30-2016 , 08:10 PM
Yeah, I think I could have folded pre but Table was so slow and i was giving action with marginal hands to the original raisers, since most of the table were tight players they just raise pre and check fold most flops since they werent C betting most
Flops unless they hit the flop, and i was taking advantage of that so thats why i decided to play 9-8 off, BB is a very tight/fishy player, I know when he hits top pair and good kicker he is very unlikely to Let it go no matter how much aggro are u, so when i called the all in inwas hoppin to seee A5/k5/. But yeah i think I should have folded
11-30-2016 , 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Money$Team
Just because 90% of 1/2 live fish play tons of trash hands doesn't mean you have to.

Fold pre

Fold flop

As played, if you really know you get called by utg with overpairs the raise is correct imo and once we raise I don't think we should be folding this getting better than 4 to 1 just because BB is tight. There always a chance he is doing something wacky like trying to protect a 5
Yeah, since he overcalls the flop on a 7-5-5 board with 2 spades, I put him on oberpairs, straight or flush draws, and some 5s, worst case scenario he had 77 and had me crush, i was unlucky he called the flop with 66 and we both hit our card on the turn.
12-01-2016 , 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
You think he mucks A5s pre from the BB when theres a BTN caller? Also if people get bored even tight players will start calling SCs. And if he did have a dummy straight or K5s/A5s, I doubt he would fold to our turn raise os just coldcall.

He called the flop bet with 66 when there was a bet and call. He's probably not as tight as OP states he is
It's really a pointless argument about fishy players in a fishy game, but don't you think he just straight up raises 5x on the flop given there is a flush draw out?

      
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