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Originally Posted by clowntable
I think check/calling is perfectly fine with certain chunks of your range vs an unknown. Guessing games aren't horrible if you can guess fairly accurately. You can have decent assumptions about a typical unknown's range and never have "no information". It's mostly a matter of playing certain limits/timeslots over a big enough a sample (getting a "feel" for unknowns)
I'm not sure I could argue this point in either direction tbh
Wanted to say good OP to begin with, and add in a few cents of my own.
Since I've coached for over 5+ years now (no I do not currently take students, and this is not a post to advertise my coaching services - ahhh, 2+2), I pretty much deal with a lot of consistent players that have beat say 100nl, but start to struggle at 200 and can't win at 400nl. It's typically a lot of the same bad habits over and over. A lot of it is similar things to what was in OP.
A lot of people have incorrectly applied things they've seen (sometimes not explained very well) in higher stake videos, or at their stakes, but by players that usually play higher. They are pushing very little edges w/o enough information, bluff raising in spots w/ little equity, and not generally understanding why they are betting/raising, etc...
A long with that is not understanding when to check / call, which is an increasingly valuable line. I heard that term (check / guess from a student a while back), and I was basically... wtf are you talking about? You're not checking and guessing. You assign a range to your opponent and decide if most of that range includes second best hands that will call, or if most of that range is stronger than yours, but weak enough to bluff. If you're check guessing, then you need to put more work on understanding equity and hand ranges (which I think OP mentioned - you need post flop work).
I don't like putting my 200NL and below winrates up here, but I won at an insane rate at these stakes by using opponents online aggression against them, while maintaining a pretty balanced aggression level myself. It's so much easier to bluff online than it is live.