check-raiser is greg1osu, 12/9/3 thru 4k, coldcaller shorty is unknown.

Poker Stars, $1/$2 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker Hand History Converter

UTG: $64.25
Hero (MP): $282.55
CO: $52
BTN: $200.45
SB: $215.05
BB: $88.55

Pre-Flop: A A dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $8, 2 folds, SB calls $7, BB calls $6

Flop: ($24) T 7 7 (3 Players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $17, SB raises to $42, BB calls $42,

SB prolly has a mid pp raising to see where he's at and BB could have any two. put BB all in and fold to a shove from SB.

umm, probably not against him, but we are getting such a good price I can't see folding. But if he leads into both of you on the turn I think you have to lay it down.

I think you have to peal the turn and fold to any more action. With such low stats I think you're beat very often obviously but with all that money in the pot I think I have to peal. Tough spot.

I know pot odds are important, but I don't think rationalizing a call here getting a "good price" is a great idea in general.

I think I fold pretty quick.

I don't like folding overpairs to minraises on drawy boards with a call in between. We have the As, who knows he might check turn in which case you are good always.

Is he nitty enough to not repop your CO raise with TT? I'm not sure but I'm guessing yes? especially if you are tight. Him already having a full house might explain his small CR.

I turbo muck.

I wouldnt worry so much about SB, it looks like he has a pp 88, 99, JJ, even QQ. TT is possible but he has a high enough AF to make me think you're still ahead often. BB's call is more dangerous, it's either a draw or a 7 so if BB likes to draw I'd get it in, short of that read fold flop.

Yeah. Just bail vs. Nitty McNitNick and some random idiot. Most of the time nothing good is happening here.

Im felting this. Greg1OSU does 3 bet TT most of the time and a 7 really isn't in his range. He also like to check raise with decent top pair hands and he won't fold.

You did notice that BB check/flat-called a 3-bet, right? So you're putting him on... well, I don't know... and greg on... well.. an AT that he flat-called with and now he's felting vs. two villains?

Shorty doesn't really concern me and I just can't give greg1osu credit for something that beats us. He's plays top pair/draws like this all the time and there just aren't enough other hands in his range that we are concerned about. He may play like 78 or something like that but I doubt it given preflop.

I stopped there. Thanks for the input.

Wow, all you people folding this? SBs line could easily be JJ-KK or big suited; even nits call KQs-QJs in the BB here, right?
BB could have anything, including any two suited, 98, etc etc.

Im not folding this getting 5:1, too good chance to see an overpair + a FD.

Unfortunately you are extremely likely to see more action, so your direct odds don't matter all that much. You are highly unlikely to improve. The real question here is whether you are willing to play for stacks. If not, just bail now and save yourself some grief.

In the sense that a short stack is more likely to be a bad player and a passive fish whose range is wide here, it's a completely valid point.

Whatever. It's some loose passive idiot with an $80 stack. He probably has 99 or some other stupid hand. Even on the off chance he actually has a seven, we are still likely in front of greg, he isn't folding, and he will makes up for any losses to the shortstack. Honestly though I think we are ahead of both players here.

LOL at those not worrying about SB.

Also, peeling turn at folding to more action is horrendous. You really think this turn is checking checked through? Also, on the off chance that we are ahead at the moment we might aswell stick it in now, rather than give a free turn card to beat us.

I fold.

for the love of god, i read the first line of the description that mentioned the villain and I wondered why you even posted this. why are you even considering doing anything but folding against him?

i actually fold this quick, but i see the reasoning against it tho, it's just a gut feeling i guess

agree with DJ on everything. Greg's aware of his image and the leeway it allows him in certain spots and the shorty is just some random bad player.

Well I just checked my pt to look at big pots I have involving him and in my database everytime he checkraised and played a big pot he either had a draw or some marginal top pair hand. Every pot I have for him in which he has two pair or better he seems to b/3b. Relatively smallish sample of hands but it is worth considering.

edit: the other thing I'm considering is that I really just can't see what he can have here. He's so nitty and robotic preflop that his range is pretty well defined. I don't think he plays any hand that contains a 7 oop in a raised pot and he 3 bets TT.

I think the key to this hand is that jk3a is MP and not CO or BTN. If he's in the CO, I say TT probably 3-bets the raise, but from MP, greg probably doesn't, leaving TTT77 as a possibility. He's more likely to set-mine vs MP, because he figures MP raise is stronger than CO raise and he can get better set value from MP, allowing him to c/f the ones he misses. If he has a PP that missed, I think you'd see the check-raise more if you were in the CO instead of MP. As is, I'd say it's pretty close (I can totally see greg playing JJ and AsKs the same way). The fact that the BB cold called the raise might be a draw, but it's the way every donk in the universe plays the 7 as well. I doubt you're beating both of them, and even if you are beating BB (and get greg to fold his presumably weaker holding), he's likely got a good amount of outs, whereas if you're losing you have 2 at best. And ummm hi....quad sevens? =)

Please don't flat call this. You're at the mercy of the turn card, and if greg has you beat, he might try to trick you by checking turn as well, causing you to either fire out or be forced to call something on the river.

I would probably never fold this hand in the moment, but the more I think about it, I say it's a fold, and if you folded it, good job. The situation definitely is not as simple as the "ZOMG NIT!!! GET OUT!!!" vibe I'm getting from some people though.