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Old 05-16-2017, 11:14 PM   #1
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200NL - Top set facing river jam on 3 flush & 4-to-straight runout

Flop & turn, esp flop, I think are pretty standard. I don't really have any 3b bluffs on this flop texture at all, and I'm going to have a lot of non-nutted hands that are going to want to continue. My whole range here is flatting.

River is really an annoying spot. QQ is near the top of my range other than a flush. I decided to call here because I beat some worse value betting hands like 66/44. I also think that if for some reason he had a total airball or spaz bluff like Ad that decided to bluff-raise flop and continue barreling, then the river is a perfect spot for him to bluff.

Zero reads on the BB, as this is his very first hand. Also, given that this is his first hand, I wasn't too sure he'd just go nuts here without the goods.

What do you do with 66 here?

iPoker - $2 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 108.33 BB (VPIP: 16.67, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
SB: 99 BB (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
BB: 100 BB
Hero (CO): 160.83 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 6 Q 4
BB checks, Hero bets 3.5 BB, BB raises to 12 BB, Hero calls 8.5 BB

Turn: (30.5 BB, 2 players) 3
BB bets 22 BB, Hero calls 22 BB

River: (74.5 BB, 2 players) 7
BB bets 63 BB, Hero calls 63 BB

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Old 05-17-2017, 01:16 PM   #2
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Re: 200NL - Top set facing river jam on 3 flush & 4-to-straight runout

It's fine. Some guys just go all in on their first hand with anything, that alone is enough reason to call.
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Old 05-17-2017, 04:23 PM   #3
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Re: 200NL - Top set facing river jam on 3 flush & 4-to-straight runout

Seems like an easy hand to get away from tbh. 66 shouldn't be value betting and especially not picking such a large betsizing when you have so many flushes.
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Old 05-17-2017, 08:48 PM   #4
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Re: 200NL - Top set facing river jam on 3 flush & 4-to-straight runout

I would look at it like this. Let's give him maybe 4 Ad bluff combos, and 6 combos of lower flopped sets. Since both draws got there and his play was consistent w both, i would easily give him more than twice as many combos of flush / 35 /57, especially since he's likely calling wide w suited hands from the BB. So math wise it's a fold, but it's def weird that it's his first hand, and in the moment I can see being tempted to call
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Old 05-17-2017, 09:03 PM   #5
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Re: 200NL - Top set facing river jam on 3 flush & 4-to-straight runout

This hand connects great with villain's range since he is in the BB. If villain is bluffing, this is a great run out for him to do it on. With that said, this board connects with villain so well, I would have a hard time making it past the turn, and I would definitely fold the river.
I have run this bluff many times from the BB. I think most players are folding by the river here.
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Old 05-17-2017, 10:50 PM   #6
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Re: 200NL - Top set facing river jam on 3 flush & 4-to-straight runout

Standard call for me, especially 4 handed. For those advocating folds, are you folding lower flushes too?
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Old 05-17-2017, 11:27 PM   #7
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Re: 200NL - Top set facing river jam on 3 flush & 4-to-straight runout

AbsoluteTilt - I might call like 9 high flushes and higher, since he can take this line w a straight and a lower flush.
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