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200NL overpair on a drawyboard 200NL overpair on a drawyboard

10-29-2008 , 05:11 AM
Poker Stars $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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SB: $201.00
BB: $371.30
Hero (UTG): $233.45
MP: $839.15
CO: $205.20
BTN: $176.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG with J J
Hero raises to $8, 1 fold, CO calls $8, 2 folds, BB calls $6

Flop: ($25.00) 5 6 2 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16, CO calls $16, BB raises to $42, Hero ?

villan playing 40/25/4 over 50 hands, he seems to be playing kind of loose, and i have been 3betting him in position and he has snap folded.
10-29-2008 , 05:12 AM
shovel
10-29-2008 , 05:30 AM
If you want to continue, I prefer callling (folding to backraise) and shoving a safe turn card.

I lean towards folding. You all have pretty strong ranges, which is why I think you end up playing for stacks in dead/flipping situation. Doing anything but folding is only an option because BB is semi crazy.
10-29-2008 , 05:36 AM
co is 18/9/3 over 141 hands fwiw.
10-29-2008 , 10:08 AM
I'd get it in if it was hu. But I think you're toasted here.
10-29-2008 , 10:28 AM
Check raising 3 way here? I think we're in really bad shape.

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 45.068% 44.76% 00.31% 12850 89.00 { JhJs }
Hand 1: 54.932% 54.62% 00.31% 15682 89.00 { 66-55, 22, Ac2c, KcQc, QcJc, JcTc, 87s, 87o }

And this is if we think he's c/r his draws three way. If we restrict him to big draws/sets:

Board: 5c 6c 2s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 17.331% 16.67% 00.66% 2146 84.50 { JhJs }
Hand 1: 82.669% 82.01% 00.66% 10555 84.50 { 66-55, 22, Ac2c, KcQc, 8c7c, 4c3c }
Bad news. An 18/9 isn't c/r this threeway without crunching you, and especially not such a small amount. (granted the stove's are a little tight, but w/e)
10-29-2008 , 10:31 AM
Never shove here he's c/ring into 2 people this is at least a combo draw which we are flipping against. I also don't like calling because we still have the other guy behind us to act. Having said this I think the best play here is to fold.
10-29-2008 , 10:31 AM
Wouldnt he call most of his draws instead of checkraising them 3way?
Fold imho
10-29-2008 , 11:30 AM
Lol at him calling draws instead of checkraising multiway, that's horrible (unless he had the nut draw and had reason to think another person had a draw and wanted to stack them on good turns, which is pretty illogical under most circumstance). Call flop, shove safe-ish turn cards.

      
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