No stats or reads on villain.

Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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BB: $84.70
UTG: $380.90
Hero (CO): $104.95
BTN: $98.50
SB: $106.00

Pre Flop: Hero is CO with J J
1 fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, SB calls $3.50, BB calls $3

Flop: ($12.00) 5 K T (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $8, SB folds, BB calls $8

Turn: ($28.00) T (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($28.00) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $15, Hero ...

yeah, why not... you only have to be good like 33% of the time

Id call that one, every draw missed (flush, straight) id call this one fo sho

Seems pretty close to break even. He's almost never valuebetting a worse hand here, but I think he could be bluffing about 1/3 of time. I probably call this without any read, because of the KT and two diamonds.

How about here?

No stats or reads on villain.


Poker Stars $0.50/$1.00 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
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Hero (UTG): $117.50
MP: $121.15
CO: $135.85
BTN: $19.90
SB: $99.00
BB: $85.25

Pre Flop: Hero is UTG with J J
Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, CO calls $4, 1 fold, SB calls $3.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($13.00) 5 Q 7 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $9, CO calls $9, SB folds

Turn: ($31.00) T (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

River: ($31.00) A (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $19, Hero ...

1st call, 2nd fold

Would the 2nd hand be a call if the 3rd heart didn't fall?

Any merit to leading the river, or does that turn our hand into a bluff?

bump

I'd call both.

second hand is closer,
but he's not really repping much outside of Ax 2pair.

I call the first, if nothing else this a great hand to get a firm read on the type of player he is, plus you only have to be good 1/3

Second I dont think can be a call w/o history, but what about a raise on river or a bet on turn? im not sure either of these is a great option but how else do you win the hand unless he calls you with a strange straight draw on flop? I used to always check behind a turn card like this but ultimately this is too weak and does not exploit our position enough, while that might not even be a standard play it is necessary to throw it into your arsenal

1st call only for info imo
2nd izi fold

First one is close. Draws missed but he's not value betting worse hands - a call can't be bad, you'll learn something. His bet sizing sure looks like he wants a call, though, so I wouldn't hate a fold either. Marginal spot imo.

In the second hand, I'd fold.