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07-25-2008 , 03:49 AM
Party Poker $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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UTG: $51.10
CO: $215.45
Hero (BTN): $130.50
SB: $64.20
BB: $101.00

Pre Flop: Hero is BTN with J 9
1 fold, CO calls $1, Hero raises to $5, SB calls $4.50, 1 fold, CO calls $4

Flop: ($16.00) 5 J J (3 players)
SB checks, CO bets $4.00, Hero raises to $12, SB calls $12, CO calls $8

Turn: ($52.00) 4 (3 players)
SB checks, CO bets $30.00 Hero ????????????


Villian is a donk 42/10 over 60 hands

what is my line here??
07-25-2008 , 04:00 AM
which villain is the donk, the CO? I wouldn't fold here, though I'm kind of suspicious of the SB.
07-25-2008 , 04:20 AM
CO is the donk
07-25-2008 , 04:23 AM
I really think SB has you beat here. so I would just call, since it's kinda clear CO is the donk, and it's possible he just has an overpair or a flushdraw. So I call, and when SB also calls, i c/f most rivers.

Definetely don't fold here, but threeway, you can fold to a c/r from SB or to a c/c, and then fold on the river. or at least check it down.
07-25-2008 , 05:10 AM
Donk would have raised or limp/rr QQ+ preflop most of the time. On the flop he could have a FD, but I don't see him making a big donk with FD on the turn. SB is shortstack, so I guess he's not that good, but still slowplayed stuff is big part of his range.

I hate folding, but would still probably do it. Too likely 1 of them has a better J. I would call if I had seen CO spewing before.

KJ+ would be a call. QJ probably.
07-25-2008 , 05:19 AM
Assuming you don't give that donk much respect and want to stack him, it's hard to get off this hand. But there are not many worse Jacks out there, and the other guy could well be sitting on a boat waiting for the others to play at each other. Easy to go down the drain with this hand, but either I fold here and wait for a better spot, or I raise again and hope donk thinks his 99 was good 'cuz nobody could have a Jack or something, which 'they' do.
07-25-2008 , 05:19 AM
Some reads/stats on the sb would be nice. If he´s a reasonable player, it´s an easy fold.
07-25-2008 , 05:22 AM
Raise more on the flop, raise the turn and make it look like he has fold equity.

I am not ever folding here because this is partypoker and the only hand which takes his line is 55, IF THAT.
07-25-2008 , 05:30 AM
SB is on a flush draw for sure!

I don't know but raising here kinda turns our hand into a bluff, since he probably doesnt have an overpair. Calling on the other hand lets SB draw to his flush.
07-25-2008 , 05:33 AM
I wouldn´t worry about CO at all. I´m sure you´re ahead of him. It all depends on SB - what kind of player is he?
07-25-2008 , 05:39 AM
Assuming 55,AJ,KJ,QJ,JT is in their range, you need to add some serious number of FDs and other trash combinations before call/raise becomes profitable?
07-25-2008 , 06:54 AM
more on the flop.
def call on turn and pbb call river. he can see 99 as good here as well.
07-25-2008 , 10:49 AM
OK thanks for the responses, is on stars, but the holdem manager thing makes it look like it is on party. Anyway i raised the turn, SB fold, Cut off had JQ. But think i have to stack off to the cut off, as he was a mega fish.

      
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