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03-11-2011 , 11:07 AM

YoungBuck

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aren't they?

just a resultorientated thread to give me confidence that i'm not way off.

perceifed image against fish: aggro

1) Villain: 44/22 31WTSD 237h

On Game, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
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Hero (SB): $124.80 (124.8 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)
MP: $158.45 (158.5 bb)
CO: $32.90 (32.9 bb)
BTN: $28 (28 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A

MP raises to $4, 2 folds, Hero raises to $13, BB folds, MP calls $9

Flop: ($27) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $18, MP calls $18

Turn: ($63) 5

(2 players)
Hero bets $35, MP calls $35

River: ($133) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $58.80 and is all-in, MP calls $58.80

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2) Villain: 82/9 50%WTSD(4/8) 12h

On Game, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8168922

Hero (SB): $102.10 (102.1 bb)
BB: $212.65 (212.7 bb)
MP: $58.80 (58.8 bb)
CO: $191.75 (191.8 bb)
BTN: $110.10 (110.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 7

2 folds, BTN calls $1, Hero raises to $6, BB folds, BTN calls $5

Flop: ($13) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $10, BTN calls $10

Turn: ($33) 4

(2 players)
Hero bets $24, BTN calls $24

River: ($81) 3

(2 players)
Hero bets $62.10 and is all-in, BTN calls $62.10

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3) 70/35 33WTSD 25h

On Game, $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8168932

SB: $101 (101 bb)
BB: $110.95 (111 bb)
MP: $100 (100 bb)
CO: $136 (136 bb)
Hero (BTN): $98.50 (98.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7

2 folds, Hero raises to $3, SB folds, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.50) 3

(2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5, BB calls $5

Turn: ($16.50) 4

(2 players)
BB bets $16.50, Hero raises to $48, BB calls $31.50

River: ($112.50) 6

(2 players)
BB bets $54.95 and is all-in, Hero calls $42.50 and is all-in

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cliffs: paranoid or leak

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03-11-2011 , 11:11 AM

Oliver Klozoff

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yeah, looks fine considering villains.

I guess you're in the run horrible vs fish club, too. We should make arm bands or something.

03-11-2011 , 11:17 AM

an0nymous

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I would highly consider folding hand 3, 1 and 2 are standard.

03-11-2011 , 11:25 AM

YoungBuck

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Agree, last hand seems close. Need about 22% to be good here. Aggrofishes are doing weird stuff in this spots, donkshoving all kinds of hands like one pairs, 2pairs, maybe sets etc. but also this river hits his range very hard and alot of hands improve.
considering having top set, getting information i think call cant be way off.

Last edited by YoungBuck; 03-11-2011 at 11:41 AM.

03-11-2011 , 02:00 PM

Blade99

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3) is a fold, 1 and 2 are fine obv.

03-11-2011 , 02:10 PM

Oliver Klozoff

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Dudes 70/35 over 25 hands, fd missed, we need 22%- #3 is not a fold.

03-11-2011 , 02:36 PM

I_CaN_C_u

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Ye cos he is fish he is not turning any pairs into bluffs and dont see him thinking "I can call with flop FD and rep BDFD or straight on the river with these potsizes, LOL" Would still probably call him down cos he can valuebluff so wide.

1n2 r WP

03-11-2011 , 04:23 PM

chytry

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Hand 3 is very close to a fold. If he is not passive, he should be shoving all the 2p and sets on turn.

03-11-2011 , 06:17 PM

higher_energy

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3 is a fold and i dont think its that close

others are v. standard

03-11-2011 , 06:24 PM

#10

probly bad

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Spoiler:

03-11-2011 , 07:13 PM

#11

Vanilla Thunder

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anyone else like a shove ott hand 3?

03-11-2011 , 07:42 PM

#12

Oliver Klozoff

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C'mon guys, really? In hand 3 were putting him exclusively on diamonds or a 5 here? I agree the river sucks, but the dudes running 70/35. We'll see 33/22 here sometimes. We'll see AA here sometimes. We'll see missed hearts or random spew sometimes. There's just no way we can narrow this 70/35 guys range so much that it's narrow enough to fold 77 here only needing less than 25% equity.

03-11-2011 , 08:36 PM

#13

kagame

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reads on bluffing potential are nice

03-11-2011 , 09:12 PM

#14

Buff Disciple

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All 3 seem super standard to me. Fish literally click buttons at times. I'm not folding top set, prob not even AA

03-12-2011 , 12:07 AM

#15

Posiedon

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Hand 3 i too think is a fold.Hands 1&2 are fine.

03-12-2011 , 12:09 AM

#16

MCHpow_pow

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You dont need reads on bluffing potential.

Hand 3 is never a fold versus a drooler

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