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100NL: open ended str8 flush draw! 100NL: open ended str8 flush draw!

03-20-2010 , 06:39 PM
Reads
Villain was unknown, CO looked like a recreational player.

Thoughts
I didn't want to relinquish my equity by raising and running the risk of being 3bet, so i opted to flat the lead. My intention was to bet the turn if checked to, to take him off any draw he might have been leading.

So the turn is a blank and i don't expect him to fold any pair at this point, but i do have a lot of equity vs pairs and he will be forced to fold flush draws i think. I would play most of my range in this manner aswell, so perhaps my flop plan should be to fire turn and river if checked to..
Anyway, when he min check-raises it looks too likely to me that hes getting tricky with a full house/quads and i have a fair amount of reverse implied odds even with 2 outs to the nutz.

Hand
What's your turn play?

Ongame Network $100.00 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players
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SB: $108.85
BB: $99.70
Hero (UTG): $189.55
CO: $283.45
BTN: $99.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with 8 7
Hero raises to $3.50, CO calls $3.50, 1 fold, SB calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: ($11.50) 6 6 9 (3 players)
SB bets $5.00, Hero calls $5, CO folds

Turn: ($21.50) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $14.00, SB raises to $28, Hero?
03-20-2010 , 08:12 PM
What range are you betting against?

edit: for sure hes not bluffing as you mentioned
03-20-2010 , 08:15 PM
call, shove any river checked to you, and call/shove if you hit
03-20-2010 , 08:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sh3nanigans
So the turn is a blank and i don't expect him to fold any pair at this point, but i do have a lot of equity vs pairs and he will be forced to fold flush draws i think.
Keep dreaming.

Turn is a definite bet though. Just call the check raise.
03-21-2010 , 08:57 AM
Thnx.

Results:
I folded to c-r since i thought he had FH..
03-21-2010 , 10:09 AM
So you put him on exactly 33 or 99?
03-21-2010 , 11:31 AM
I think raising is good on the flop, although flatting is position isnt bad either.

I call his bet on the turn, and shove most rivers when checked to.
03-21-2010 , 11:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by King of the Swing
I think raising is good on the flop, although flatting is position isnt bad either.

I call his bet on the turn, and shove most rivers when checked to.
raising is basically not for value.. were arnt any hands in is range hes calling a raise with we are ahead of
03-21-2010 , 11:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord_Ferus
raising is basically not for value.. were arnt any hands in is range hes calling a raise with we are ahead of
Obviously raising with almost any draw is not for value but as a semi bluff, and it really doesn't matter if we're marginally behind other hands, we definitely have a lot of fold and pot equity on this board against his range.
03-21-2010 , 12:05 PM
ye ofc ... but Id like to keep my range wide on that kind of board.. basically this is a board we dont expect Villain to hit very often at all.. ergo we'll float alot

not sure bout the ratio 30% calling 70% raising or sth
03-21-2010 , 02:07 PM
whenever we have a big draw and someone gives us sick odds to call, like this minraise, its usually best to just call. we put in 14 to win 63? SICK. if you worried about a boat just call on the river if you hit, but i would suggest raising

      
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