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09-12-2011 , 06:09 AM
Villain was 17/12 over 160 hands, with fold to cbet 1/4.
Only hand we played he check-raised me on AA2r(different session). Wondered what the worst hand you would defend to a raise with on this flop is? How would you play a flush draw?
Would you cbet 100% here?

Im thinking i should just flat all of my continuing range, and perhaps some flush draws aswell so i can vbet river if he checks back turn. Im just a bit unclear on what the worst value hand is, that i should flat..

Would you reduce your cbet frequency drastically against this player in the future untill he displays the ability to fold?

$0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players

Hero (SB): $178.75 (178.8 bb)
BB: $100 (100 bb)
UTG: $89.66 (89.7 bb)
MP: $126.91 (126.9 bb)
CO: $126.31 (126.3 bb)
BTN: $68.81 (68.8 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q J
4 folds, Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6) 2 A 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.50, BB raises to $14.62, Hero folds
09-12-2011 , 09:07 AM
you have more info bout the villian? like, how lite does he defend in BB cause he is kind of nitty with just 17/12. if he has like 40% WWSF then i would also just insta fold and only conitnue with good Value hands. I think if hes very nitty vs Steal, then your just getting towned tomuch and turn and river get ugly.
09-12-2011 , 09:32 AM
Yes, I would Cbet 100%. When he keeps raising you, then you can start c/folding or c/calling.

If this would be the second time he raised your Cbet on a similar flop, I'd put in a small 3-bet. Some players who aren't good at handreading bluff A-high flops w/o thinking what they're representing.

I'd probably flat any ace and reevaluate turn. Spades too.
09-12-2011 , 01:57 PM
Thnx both.

Quote:
Originally Posted by N0talent
you have more info bout the villian? like, how lite does he defend in BB cause he is kind of nitty with just 17/12.
Don't think there is a stat for BB defend vs SB steal..
His total fold BB vs steal is 67%(9 samples), don't think theres big enough sample for it to be accurate, and it's first time iv opened vs him BvB.
09-12-2011 , 03:07 PM
I think you need to gather more information about his postflop play before deciding how to exploit him. I would try stuff like checking the flop to him to find out if he is passive or aggressive postflop if you show weakness, etc... Also find out if he folds to two / three barrels, etc.
Generally, if he really is that tight over large sample, I would just try to steal his blind and don't put more money in the pot postflop without a decent hand.

If he is only playing 17/12, he has a lot of Ax type hands in his range. So, I would give up with most hands on this type of flop, and continue only with flushdraws, decent aces (maybe AT+ or AJ+) and better obv.
09-12-2011 , 03:48 PM
i think this is one of the best posts that i have read in ssnl for a long time.
09-12-2011 , 09:46 PM
how would you guys play vs this guy with:
1)a6o
2) As6-tx
09-13-2011 , 02:40 AM
well definatly I would just fld here, not much you can do with out getting spewy.in generl I would say hes Nitty, and has lots of Aces in his Range, so Iwould just give him credit and move on. your oop, have no EQU and cant call, a raise is just suicide, so theres only fold left.
Remeber what happend and try to evaluate the situtation when you got more info, and use that later....

      
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