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100NL: Any Way to Extract More VALUE? 100NL: Any Way to Extract More VALUE?

04-11-2008 , 02:04 PM
Is their any way for me to extract more value in this hand? Maybe a check/raise AI on the turn or a smaller bet on the river?
What do you guys think because I feel like I am missing value somewhere in his hand and I should be getting villains entire stack.


Full Tilt Poker, $0.50/$1 NL Hold'em Cash Game, 6 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $104.60
UTG: $87.70
Hero (MP): $107.10
CO: $110
BTN: $121.50
SB: $112.55

Pre-Flop: Q J dealt to Hero (MP)
UTG folds, Hero raises to $3.50, CO calls $3.50, BTN calls $3.50, 2 folds

Flop: ($12) Q T Q (3 Players)
Hero bets $7, CO calls $7, BTN calls $7

Turn: ($33) J (3 Players)
Hero bets $20, CO folds, BTN calls $20

River: ($73) T (2 Players)
Hero bets _______
04-11-2008 , 02:08 PM
more on flop and turn and whateers left on the river
04-11-2008 , 02:10 PM
if hes got a q hes calling an all in..
if hes got a j hes folding to most raises
if hes got a 10 hes calling most 1/2 pots id say..

id say since you have another 70 left to play with it might be worth it to just push hope hes got a queen. he could even call with a 10 if hes bad.... otherwise your looking at maybe 30-35 if hes got a 10 but he can still drop it.. so all in could be your easiest play

although it has ****ty metagame
04-11-2008 , 02:30 PM
Bet more on the flop, turn and shove river.
04-11-2008 , 03:23 PM
bet 10 on flop 30ish on turn jam riv.
04-11-2008 , 04:19 PM
I think shoving the river is kind a of a spew here. Yes I know Zeebo blah blah, but there are so many hands a decent villain will call 1/2 pot with on the river that he's folding to a shove. And if he has a queen he'll shove over you so you don't have to worry about losing value there. Just think for a 4 seconds and make it $34 on the river.
04-11-2008 , 04:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdm13
more on flop and turn and whateers left on the river
+1
04-11-2008 , 05:01 PM
more on flop, smash the turn for a good amount.
04-11-2008 , 05:05 PM
i like more on the flop, but im not so sure about just potting the turn too, i think i like a CRAI more...any Q is betting, most Ts are betting, any flush is betting, a J is betting.....a huge range bets this turn if you check
04-11-2008 , 05:55 PM
i'd shove river as played, you have about a psb left anyway.
04-11-2008 , 07:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LSgambler
Bet more on the flop, turn and shove river.
+2
04-12-2008 , 12:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by willyc
I think shoving the river is kind a of a spew here. Yes I know Zeebo blah blah, but there are so many hands a decent villain will call 1/2 pot with on the river that he's folding to a shove. And if he has a queen he'll shove over you so you don't have to worry about losing value there. Just think for a 4 seconds and make it $34 on the river.
I agree with you Willy. I feel so many more hands call to a half pot river bet such as a Ten, or a Flush which both can be within villains range. Especially a Flush. Now that the board paired up on the river, I feel villain folds all flushes to a shove, but I might be able to induce a call on the end from a smaller bet.

I believe if I potted the turn, that would make it a lot easier to get money in on the river, but it is just way to strong here for me to pot both the flop and the turn into 2 players. I feel I almost have to bet 1/2-3/4 pot on the turn to allow some hands to catch up since I pretty much have the nuts.
04-12-2008 , 12:48 PM
who is up for a CRAI on the turn
04-12-2008 , 01:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mdm13
more on flop and turn and whateers left on the river
this
04-12-2008 , 01:33 PM
who folds flushes at 100nl? you must have super nitty image.
04-12-2008 , 01:37 PM
Shove river and stack off to AcKc, standard

      
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