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1/2 200bb deep 3b pot: Top 2 getting shat on 1/2 200bb deep 3b pot: Top 2 getting shat on

09-05-2009 , 01:21 AM
Villain just joined a bunch of my tables and I am playing with no HUD so my only reads so far are he seems pretty aggro, has bought in for 200bb and 3b people a few times in and out of position already in a short time period inc me on another table where I folded pf.

Loading HEM later I saw he was 27/17 with only a 3%/2% SB/BB 3bet over 1.6k hands with 80% cbet in 3b pots. He bet each street v quickly.

Hero (Button) ($366.05)
SB ($416.80)
BB ($78.05)
UTG ($157.70)
MP ($89.05)
CO ($48.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, K
1 fold, MP bets $6, 1 fold, Hero calls $6, SB raises to $26, 2 folds, Hero calls $20

Flop: ($60) K, 6, 9 (2 players)
SB bets $39, Hero calls $39

Turn: ($138) J (2 players)
SB bets $88, Hero calls $88

River: ($314) A (2 players)
SB bets $263.80 (All-In), $214 to hero

Last edited by waydownlow; 09-05-2009 at 01:46 AM.
09-05-2009 , 02:20 AM
fold
09-05-2009 , 03:13 AM
well once you have those stats its an obvious fold,

you should've folded preflop, its pretty bad, but look at what your range looks like now, and look at what he could have that beats you. AA/KK/JJ and AK only really, so if you didn't have those stats i'd say call
09-05-2009 , 04:36 AM
pf is pretty meh to bad. you need to have reads that he's over aggro and or spewy in 3bet pots to call here.

raise get it in on the turn
slowplaying has no merit on this board when you're gonna hate a ton of rivers and have to cry if he shoves them
09-05-2009 , 04:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jaysu
well once you have those stats its an obvious fold,

you should've folded preflop, its pretty bad, but look at what your range looks like now, and look at what he could have that beats you. AA/KK/JJ and AK only really, so if you didn't have those stats i'd say call
ya I agree with all of this.
09-05-2009 , 04:49 AM
fold young man
09-05-2009 , 07:35 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BGnight
pf is pretty meh to bad. you need to have reads that he's over aggro and or spewy in 3bet pots to call here.

raise get it in on the turn
slowplaying has no merit on this board when you're gonna hate a ton of rivers and have to cry if he shoves them
+1

u r crushed by his 3betting range. ur hand has reverse implied odds what is very bad this deep. so id fold pre. its just so hard to make a profit there.

the river is a fold imo. ur hand is a bluffcatcher (he doesnt shove for value w/ AQ) and this kind of player isnt likely to bluff.
09-05-2009 , 08:10 AM
fold pre (you're only playing for straights and flushes or 2pair and that doesn't happen a lot, rather call PP/SC/... here, hands with no reverse implied odds but with a lot of implied odds),
raise turn and get it in vs AK/KK
fold river hes not shoving worse here, only sets/AK

flop is only street thats kinda ok but still you're gonna hate life if he bets every non J or K turn
09-05-2009 , 10:30 AM
Shove turn, combinatorically KK, JJ way less likely, but the A is a very bad card for you so fold river as played

Quote:
Originally Posted by waydownlow
Villain just joined a bunch of my tables and I am playing with no HUD so my only reads so far are he seems pretty aggro, has bought in for 200bb and 3b people a few times in and out of position already in a short time period inc me on another table where I folded pf.

Loading HEM later I saw he was 27/17 with only a 3%/2% SB/BB 3bet over 1.6k hands with 80% cbet in 3b pots. He bet each street v quickly.

Hero (Button) ($366.05)
SB ($416.80)
BB ($78.05)
UTG ($157.70)
MP ($89.05)
CO ($48.20)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, K
1 fold, MP bets $6, 1 fold, Hero calls $6, SB raises to $26, 2 folds, Hero calls $20

Flop: ($60) K, 6, 9 (2 players)
SB bets $39, Hero calls $39

Turn: ($138) J (2 players)
SB bets $88, Hero calls $88

River: ($314) A (2 players)
SB bets $263.80 (All-In), $214 to hero
09-05-2009 , 01:52 PM
shove turn 100%.
fold pre 200%
09-05-2009 , 01:54 PM
fold the river, i dont mind how you played this either.
09-05-2009 , 01:55 PM
Fold pre
Turn is prob a shove, though I don't mind calling as a whole
River is a fold
09-05-2009 , 02:15 PM
Fold pre, as played shove turn, as stated above.

      
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