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Old 01-19-2015, 02:23 PM   #1
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Zoom PLO25 halp

Greetings.

Giving pennies for a thought.

3 hands played with SB.

PF fold like ever right?
Turn check?
I put him on 78xx without diamonds and I made fishy play?

I appriciate the thoughts n help.

Keep on keeping on!

Poker Stars, $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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BTN: $148.91
SB: $27.00
BB: $102.70
UTG: $37.59
Hero (MP): $65.22
CO: $13.76

Preflop: Hero is MP with K J J 3
UTG folds, Hero raises to $0.85, CO folds, BTN folds, SB calls $0.85, BB folds

Flop: ($1.86) J 9 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.87, SB calls $1.87

Turn: ($5.43) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.00, SB raises $15.25, Hero reraises $51.20, SB calls 24.38 and is all-in.

River:...

tnx again
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Old 01-19-2015, 02:35 PM   #2
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Re: Zoom PLO25 halp

wp on every street. Checking the turn would be indescribably bad. Do note that you are only a 38-62 dog against 87xx, so you can get it in even if his range is literally only 87xx (which would be indescribably bad on the SB's part).
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Old 01-20-2015, 09:07 AM   #3
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Re: Zoom PLO25 halp

Fold pre like u said.

Flop pot I like. This board hits almost the whole range of villain here. every low or midhigh rundown hits it. So you dont want them to draw cheap.

this is not the most ideal turn card in the deck.

c/c turn is wayyy better imo. you have decent equity and you dont wanna get c/r here. Also I dont see where you wanna get value from, since you block Jx types of 2 pairs.

there are only a few scarecards which can fall on the river if it goes check-check. So that wont be a problem either
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Old 01-20-2015, 09:04 PM   #4
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Re: Zoom PLO25 halp

Pre is fine, Flop is fine. Turn bet is fine. Don't like the Turn raise gii.

78 definitely in his range. He would have 78 with 2p or a flush draw to go with it which reduces your odds significantly. Call and reevaluate river.
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Old 01-20-2015, 09:19 PM   #5
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Call and reevaluate river.
There would be $9 behind in a $35 pot.
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Old 01-20-2015, 09:20 PM   #6
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There would be $9 behind in a $35 pot.
oh didn't see that lol. Yeah looks fine then
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Old 01-21-2015, 01:58 AM   #7
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Fold pre like u said.

Flop pot I like. This board hits almost the whole range of villain here. every low or midhigh rundown hits it. So you dont want them to draw cheap.

this is not the most ideal turn card in the deck.

c/c turn is wayyy better imo. you have decent equity and you dont wanna get c/r here. Also I dont see where you wanna get value from, since you block Jx types of 2 pairs.

there are only a few scarecards which can fall on the river if it goes check-check. So that wont be a problem either
I am getting very confused by the advices given here. I even double checked the preflop action to make sure that I did not misread the HH. WTF!

So many people saying 'fold pre' more or less to all hands that are not ultra premium or not at the button.

Seriously, 6 max in the HJ, and we are suppose to open fold K3ssJJ? I mean, really?
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Old 01-21-2015, 02:27 AM   #8
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I am getting very confused by the advices given here. I even double checked the preflop action to make sure that I did not misread the HH. WTF!

So many people saying 'fold pre' more or less to all hands that are not ultra premium or not at the button.

Seriously, 6 max in the HJ, and we are suppose to open fold K3ssJJ? I mean, really?
You dont srsly wanna open this hand utg+1 unless you play an extreme laggy style, or if your table is full with extreme tight nits, or when you think you got a significant edge on the other players postflop.

For the most plo25 players I would highly recommend to play quite bit tighter utg and utg+1. so snap fold
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:02 AM   #9
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You dont srsly wanna open this hand utg+1 unless you play an extreme laggy style, or if your table is full with extreme tight nits, or when you think you got a significant edge on the other players postflop.

For the most plo25 players I would highly recommend to play quite bit tighter utg and utg+1. so snap fold
Folding this pre is playing TAG more to the nittier side. It's ok, but with JJ and Khigh suit I prefer opening. It's not super laggy, it's standard. I would only fold this with super loose people behind me in position. But if people behind me are behaving I see no reason to fold preflop.
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Old 01-21-2015, 03:27 AM   #10
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You dont srsly wanna open this hand utg+1 unless you play an extreme laggy style, or if your table is full with extreme tight nits, or when you think you got a significant edge on the other players postflop.

For the most plo25 players I would highly recommend to play quite bit tighter utg and utg+1. so snap fold
Your UTG+1 is my hijack. We are playing 6max, not full ring. Opening with KxssJJ ought to be standard. Do we want to call a raise if there are aggressive players behind and in the blinds? Probably not, but open-folding is not just 'quite a bit tighter', but bordering insanely nitty.
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Old 01-21-2015, 07:48 AM   #11
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Re: Zoom PLO25 halp

I would bet less on turn, which should widen his raises more, against a calling range we have it dominated so I'm not worried about protection. Against some who have nut straight here you bet smaller and it makes the call better. We don't have + gradient so not much point shoving, there is folkd equity but this is better fo rhim to see river imo, if he doesn't have straight then its stuff like AQTdd and a gut shot you gotta worry about giving value to with smaller bet.
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Old 01-22-2015, 01:54 PM   #12
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Re: Zoom PLO25 halp

Appriciate the help and insights. Yeah, PF its good enough hand to play and fold if get 3b.
To conclude the hand, it came 5 and I got it
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