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04-16-2018 , 08:23 AM
Hi Guys,,

I play regular PLO LIVE 5/5 and crush the game. Usually I do 3-4buy ins up per session and ONLINE PLO I cant beat plo 25 Always losing with 70% of equity all in EV.

Can you help me to see my gaps ?

TKS all....



Graphs:
https://uploaddeimagens.com.br/image...4-da2523f9ae25

Last edited by TheNerdFish; 04-16-2018 at 08:48 AM.
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04-16-2018 , 11:59 AM
You need to post some hands, or at least your stats. ... graphs just show results.

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Always losing with 70% of equity all in EV.
This is not what the graph shows. Graph shows you are running slightly over AIEV since roughly hand 2.5k when you lost 10 buyins to variance.

Having played a few hours live my first reaction would be that you don't fold enough pre., fold too much post, and probably play too passive.
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04-16-2018 , 07:47 PM
That's is true , I notice my first 50-100 hrs of live play I call down fairly light alot with 2 pairs and nutblockin my hand and catching ppls bluffing. But my last 100 hrs I notice that I play fairly passive and not enough aggression.
Some time I live PLO we either don't adjust enough to other player wider calling range or we over adjust and become a little fishy. Online that **** would never flu
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04-17-2018 , 07:50 AM
this shows you how much easier Live PLO is then online. Most of the live players cant beat plo25
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04-17-2018 , 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by TheNerdFish
Hi Guys,,

I play regular PLO LIVE 5/5 and crush the game. Usually I do 3-4buy ins up per session and ONLINE PLO I cant beat plo 25 Always losing with 70% of equity all in EV.

Can you help me to see my gaps ?

TKS all....



Graphs:
https://uploaddeimagens.com.br/image...4-da2523f9ae25
the only advice someone can give you from this graph is try to make the green line go up

stats in general won't say much unless something is really wrong. post some hands where you weren't sure what to do.
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04-17-2018 , 01:54 PM
Get poker income, poker journal, or poker ledger and start tracking your live session. You will be surprised how you do after a few hundred hours of sample size.
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04-17-2018 , 08:26 PM
Ive been tracking all of my live PLO on excel since 2012. I find it very useful to keep track of long term results, & nice to see what my hourly is etc.

You guys are right the avg. Live PLO player is trash, even I think I'm trash since I quit online like 4 years ago since I don't have access to HHs & database to study and review. I'm certain I couldn't beat PLO500 & above online.
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04-17-2018 , 08:33 PM
that red line is bad. You have to get that under control . Either you are playing too many hands, or building big pots and giving up alot
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04-21-2018 , 10:12 PM
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that red line is bad. You have to get that under control . Either you are playing too many hands, or building big pots and giving up alot
Pretty sure blue line is trash also, it not negative but looks like around 4bb/100hands what have to be very low showdown winnings for plo25. Meaning player likely get too much to showdown with weakest hand and/or not value bet enough.
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04-22-2018 , 05:51 PM
dont worry, pretty soon your live results were mirror your online results
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04-22-2018 , 09:39 PM
Nope. You can suck pretty hard at PLO and still win at 5/5 live
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04-23-2018 , 07:39 AM
IMO. Online is tougher because you're playing in an environment where multi-tabling allows for better hand selection and distributes* variance, and players have access to and know how to apply HUD stats.

*Same buy-in is spread out over multiple tables rather than all on one table.


In live full ring, for a variety of reasons, you see less hands so players aren't as patient and they risk more $$ per hand.

I played a lot of live PLO (1/2) this past weekend and in 24 hrs of play I saw 3 players who made 4x-6x their 100BB buy-in (usually in 1 or 2 hands at which point they just quit playing) and they won these pots because players were committing with really bad hands like bare bottom set in a 3-way All-In. That type of play doesn't happen online.
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04-26-2018 , 12:10 AM
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this shows you how much easier Live PLO is then online. Most of the live players cant beat plo25
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Nope. You can suck pretty hard at PLO and still win at 5/5 live
Yeah.
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04-26-2018 , 01:49 AM
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Originally Posted by CJ72
IMO. Online is tougher because you're playing in an environment where multi-tabling allows for better hand selection and distributes* variance, and players have access to and know how to apply HUD stats.

*Same buy-in is spread out over multiple tables rather than all on one table.


In live full ring, for a variety of reasons, you see less hands so players aren't as patient and they risk more $$ per hand.

I played a lot of live PLO (1/2) this past weekend and in 24 hrs of play I saw 3 players who made 4x-6x their 100BB buy-in (usually in 1 or 2 hands at which point they just quit playing) and they won these pots because players were committing with really bad hands like bare bottom set in a 3-way All-In. That type of play doesn't happen online.
If u live in the usa or canada u should give global a try.
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