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No that was just a rough calculation as to the value of ftp's and not how much they give you in rakeback. If you check the marketplace forum they sell 1k ftp's for $3.5 but Im not sure what that is all about

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09-27-2010 , 04:56 AM

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gimmetheloot

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Originally Posted by marek_heinz

what is your winrate op? if it isnt secret, wondering how much ipray2god has as well

I dont even have a tracker, so I couldnt tell you even if I wanted to. Plus I have played on like 5 different computers lol.

I will say this: I had a big BE to start, but since I have figured this fkn game out I am CRUSHING.

After Oct I will figure out my ptbb/100 from Sept 13th-Nov 1st since I am now keeping manual track of my ****.

edit: Like GGaRJ said, 1k ftps is ~$50 worth of RB, and you can sell them additionally for $3.25 or something per thousand in the marketplace here if you wanna.

Lets hope this black card gives us an extra ~8% RB or something

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09-27-2010 , 07:57 AM

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marek_heinz

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Hoping for a nice boost from blackcard too. Will play more PLO again now that WCOOP is over

I actually started slow too, but having a pretty nice september and feeling good about my game

And yeah, the hourly rb at rush100 is approx 30~$

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09-27-2010 , 08:02 AM

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GoGetaRealJob

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Yeah, I figured you were doing alright God, although my tracker actually has you down after the 18k hands. But that's a really small sample, TBH. Now I see you with 400BB+ more often than not...

Starting to get more comfortable playing super deep myself, I used to be a cap degen before rush and started at Vroom with 40BB buy-ins, now I start with 100BB and head south when I reach 500. It'll be interesting to see how I'll do at the normal tables when I venture out, kinda funny that I learned to play deep stack at rush 100, megalol.

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09-27-2010 , 08:11 AM

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GoGetaRealJob

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With regard to the earlier discussion on the more aggro dynamic, it seems to me that people attack/stack off on paired flops really light. Anyone else notice this? Also, when the pots are limped, there's a decent amount of slowplay from the oop villains IMO.

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09-27-2010 , 08:38 AM

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GoGetaRealJob

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Originally Posted by marek_heinz

Hoping for a nice boost from blackcard too.

I was all confused by this before I checked the Zoo and started drooling!

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09-27-2010 , 09:02 AM

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gimmetheloot

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c-c-c-cccccccombo breaker

thank god your stats are a bit off :P

I hope those bastards dont make us wait till the first for the details on it.

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09-27-2010 , 01:26 PM

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ATMo

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Glad IPray2god is not playing anymore

so much pain to play against him...
Recently RUSH poker just blew my mind and was just clicking buttons ant not thinking about the game... Probably need a good rest and re-think the strategy

I am so pumped up about the black card. I was collecting all my FTP's in hopes that one day i can purchase them for cash . well it came sooner than i thought

cant wait until the store items will show up

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09-27-2010 , 06:32 PM

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TheMagnet

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Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob

Stop limping AA and KK utg.

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09-27-2010 , 06:36 PM

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GoGetaRealJob

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Originally Posted by TheMagnet

Stop limping AA and KK utg.

No comment!

Needless to say, I like to mix it up. Careful with those BTN raises, muahahahahaaaaa!!!!

What's ur FTP nick, btw?

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09-27-2010 , 09:33 PM

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gimmetheloot

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lol atmo, i have no idea why u were berating me. AA/KK limp UTG is not bad.

Magnet, even knowing what he has its hard to defend against since so many flops come Q/K/A high.

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09-28-2010 , 04:04 AM

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ATMo

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Originally Posted by gimmetheloot

lol atmo, i have no idea why u were berating me. AA/KK limp UTG is not bad.

Magnet, even knowing what he has its hard to defend against since so many flops come Q/K/A high.

Berating you ? Have no idea what u r talking about. I rarely chat and when i do i try to be friendly, not offensive .

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09-28-2010 , 04:09 AM

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ATMo

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I see the point in limping AA/KK utg when there is rush hours. Flop is often 4way and u have to c/f almost any non A flop. And when u do hit , they give u credit ... That said, i almost never limp myself

P.S any of u guys already received black card ?

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09-28-2010 , 04:18 AM

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gimmetheloot

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Originally Posted by ATMo

P.S any of u guys already received black card ?

this is a very very simple analysis of the consequences of limping big pairs utg.

If you are SacramentoKid, which I assume you are, yes, I would call that berating.

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09-28-2010 , 05:03 AM

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Elrazor

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i can understand limping AAxx UTG in certain games, but rush isn't one of them (unless you are short ofc).

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09-28-2010 , 05:25 AM

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ATMo

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I am UrPersonalATM . I almost never limp utg so just put my 2cents on that. I would be pleased to hear more in-detail analysis

How come you thought i am SacramentoKid ?

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09-28-2010 , 06:18 AM

#42

gimmetheloot

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Originally Posted by Elrazor

i can understand limping AAxx UTG in certain games, but rush isn't one of them (unless you are short ofc).

I completely disagree, but whateva

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Originally Posted by ATMo

I am UrPersonalATM . I almost never limp utg so just put my 2cents on that. I would be pleased to hear more in-detail analysis

How come you thought i am SacramentoKid ?

Oh, sorry then lol. I figured you were him because he was saying how I was so good he modeled himself after me and I was so hard to play against and how he wished I wasnt playing and that I wouldnt be profitable there w/o RB

, and then your post came shortly after the end of my session.

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09-28-2010 , 06:48 AM

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marek_heinz

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Originally Posted by ATMo

I am UrPersonalATM . I almost never limp utg so just put my 2cents on that. I would be pleased to hear more in-detail analysis

How come you thought i am SacramentoKid ?

Wow, another guy who has like 80% c/r and raise flop vs. me and always has it

hi

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09-28-2010 , 08:56 AM

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ATMo

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Hey Marek. Nice to see you all here

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09-28-2010 , 09:50 AM

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GoGetaRealJob

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Originally Posted by Elrazor

i can understand limping AAxx UTG in certain games, but rush isn't one of them (unless you are short ofc).

In the 40BB cap games, limp/3betting the top of my range was my bread and butter. When I started at Vroom as a shorty, there was insane value vs deep regs who just potted every BTN they played.

In terms of deep play, I'd like to hear your arguments as to why limping AAxx and the like is bad from UTG. I can then explain some of my thinking supporting it, and I'd obv love to hear God's intake, if he's willing to divulge anything on how he crushes!

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09-28-2010 , 09:55 AM

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GoGetaRealJob

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And now for something completely different...

I'm still a bit undecided about my FTP avatar's gender. I'm starting to think it's a woman, but can't say for sure, lol. The cigarette holder and the earrings point me to that direction

.

any thoughts?

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09-28-2010 , 10:01 AM

#47

Tex_Perkins

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imo the main problem with limping in rush is there's just more value in making the pots bigger vs bad players, and it slows down your hands/hr

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09-28-2010 , 10:01 AM

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Tex_Perkins

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and it's def a woman

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09-28-2010 , 10:08 AM

#49

GoGetaRealJob

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Originally Posted by Tex_Perkins

imo the main problem with limping in rush is there's just more value in making the pots bigger vs bad players, and it slows down your hands/hr

Why do you want lower SPR vs bad players? Seems counter-intuitive to me. No comment on the hand/hr, lol.

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09-28-2010 , 10:18 AM

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Tex_Perkins

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It's not about SPR, it's about pot size. The bigger the pot, the bigger their mistakes are. Granted, if SPR is v small it limits the mistakes they can make but generally people are deep enough for this not to matter.

I'd say:

$8 pot on flop with $100 behind > $3 pot on flop with $100 behind

$8 pot on flop with $15 behind < $3 pot on flop with $15 behind

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