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Old 06-01-2020, 11:35 AM   #1
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Top two vs a flop raise on T86r

    PartyGaming - $0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
    Hand converted by Holdem Manager 3

    BTN: $10.55 (105.5 bb)
    Hero (SB): $11.79 (117.9 bb)
    BB: $10.00 (100 bb)
    UTG: $13.07 (130.7 bb)
    CO: $11.33 (113.3 bb)

    Hero posts SB $0.05, BB posts $0.10

    Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has T 9 8 4
    3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20

    Flop: ($0.60, 2 players) 6 8 T
    Hero bets $0.37, BB raises to $1.41, Hero calls $1.04

    Turn: ($3.42, 2 players) 2
    Hero checks, BB bets $2.60, Hero calls $2.60

    River: ($8.62, 2 players) J
    Hero checks,




    Should you just be folding this flop vs a raise at the micros? Seems weak but Idk how many turns/rivers you can happily call down. Even when villain doesn't have the nut straight theres plenty of ways for him to be a favorite on the flop (J9xx is 51%).
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    Old 06-02-2020, 01:36 AM   #2
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    Re: Top two vs a flop raise on T86r

    ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
    9,767,020 trials (Exhaustive)
    board: T86
    Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
    Ts8s9c4c39.05% 3,278,5441,071,147
    66xx, J9xx, 97xx, T8xx60.95% 5,417,3291,071,147
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    Old 06-02-2020, 01:53 AM   #3
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    Re: Top two vs a flop raise on T86r

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    ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
    9,767,020 trials (Exhaustive)
    board: T86
    Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
    Ts8s9c4c39.05% 3,278,5441,071,147
    66xx, J9xx, 97xx, T8xx60.95% 5,417,3291,071,147
    How do you use this to proceed with the hand?
    We need 33% to continue, so call?
    Keep calling if the J9xx draw doesn't improve?
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    Old 06-02-2020, 02:40 AM   #4
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    Re: Top two vs a flop raise on T86r

    No idea why 88xx/TTxx aren't there if we're including 66xx. They do exist even if they're blocked

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    We need 33% to continue, so call?
    This is only true if you were facing an all-in bet. You're not going to realize all of your equity so you actually need more than 33% to call. How much more? No idea.
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    Old 06-02-2020, 05:30 AM   #5
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    Re: Top two vs a flop raise on T86r

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    No idea why 88xx/TTxx aren't there if we're including 66xx. They do exist even if they're blocked
    Correct, i was to lazy to put in all sets, but i think hero gets the point, we have very little equity vs a c/r on this board OOP.
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    Old 06-02-2020, 08:06 AM   #6
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    Re: Top two vs a flop raise on T86r

    I would be checking this flop with most of my range.
    With this hand I would check/call since I don't wanna get raised.
    Even if we bet and villain calls it's gonna be tough on most turns and we can get bluffed off the best on turn or river.
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    Old 06-02-2020, 08:25 AM   #7
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    Re: Top two vs a flop raise on T86r

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    I would be checking this flop with most of my range.
    With this hand I would check/call since I don't wanna get raised.
    Even if we bet and villain calls it's gonna be tough on most turns and we can get bluffed off the best on turn or river.
    I would do this as well. Don't overplay top two pairs. Our hand got lots equity to continue and showdown value,but not against raise.
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