Background: I'm trying to create a 4bet range beyond AAxx. My PLO Matrix subscription expired so I don't know if this is the correct play (or close at least). I'm assuming it's a good 4bet and then 5bet call because it's a a K high 4 straight rundown. Should I also make this play with say a 9 high 4 straight rundown? to be honest I'd probably simply call the 3bet with a hand like 9 high rundown single suited and 4bet if it was double suited.

Preflop. BTN 3bets me (CO) and BB calls. KQJT single suited so I decide to 4bet. I imagine anything other than AAxx, double suited 4 straight will fold. Does the fold equity of 4betting make this ok or was it too loose? If it was too loose preflop would a double suited hand make a difference?

PokerStars - $0.25 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 100.52 BB
SB: 121.2 BB
BB: 56.44 BB
UTG: 192.88 BB
MP: 106.52 BB
Hero (CO): 97.6 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has T J K Q

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3.4 BB, BTN raises to 11.6 BB, fold, BB calls 10.6 BB, Hero raises to 46.8 BB, BTN raises to 100.52 BB and is all-in, BB calls 44.84 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 50.8 BB and is all-in

This topic is above my paygrade, but here are my thoughts >

If you're trying for fold equity, I feel like you should save the 4-betting for:
1. hands that have an A in them (e.g. A987) to decrease the chance your opponent has AAxx
2. Smaller double-suited rundowns that perform better heads up against AAxx than a single-suited KQJT.

KQJTss feels like exact wrong hand to 4-bet in this situation. It's a good multiway hand, and feels like you're forfeiting a lot of multiway equity when you reopen the betting by 4-betting and run into AAxx.

Contrast that to 9876ds where you're not thrilled if you get 5-bet by AAxx, but you'd rather be heads up against AAxx than 3-way v AAxx and JT97 that dominates your straights.

according to my notes this is not a four bet. categories we can four bet include KKAds, QQ-TT + A ds, some 0g ds rundows, half our 1 g ds rundowns, some Axxx ds, some 2 gapper ds.


KQJT is a pretty bad candidate imo. you are unblocking aces and blocking hands you would want him to have.

Agree with everything these guys already said. You have about as good a multi way hand as you're gonna get no real reason to put half your stack in to fold out the bb.

thanks for the replies and insights! This is really good info!

I think this comes down to how wide the BTN is re-raising you and if he will call your 4b with a wide range. If he's 3b real wide and calling your 4b with most of that range than go for it, otherwise calling the 3b isn't a bad scenario. I also like calling to keep the BB in esp with a hand like this that flops really good

You don't 3b many ss hands without an A, and even then it's quite rare. 4b is almost never.

ds this could be a 4b.

The situation also changes in a way that makes your particular hand exceptionally bad, when there's a cold caller.

Hands you should be 4betting that aren't aces are usually hands like AK56ds A567ds JT97ds and so on. Some AKK AQQ etc.

I think this is to lose. First of all you want an ace when you 4 bet bluffing, and no king. You also want to be double suited. An ace makes it less likely 3-better has aces. No king makes it more likely he has kings that he should fold. Double suited gives your 4-bet bluff more quity.

I think its best to 4-bet combos like Aj107ds, A879 Aqq9ds, lower ds rundowns with 1 gap and at low frequency some ds trash like j758.

I think its most important to unblock kings, block aces, and be double suited. Oh, and if you get 5-betted you have to mostly call it off. Maybe throw hands like ds AQQx and AKKx at 100bbs.

We have around 40% against the likely AA so don't want to play for stacks pre.

Also our hand plays quite well postflop so better to call and connect to the board before putting our money in.