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Small Stakes PL Omaha Discussion of 1/2 and below pot-limit Omaha poker |
04-08-2021, 08:46 AM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 3,691
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that's a wrap
PokerMaster, $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.
SB: $24 (96 bb)
BB: $22.21 (88.8 bb)
UTG: $49.48 (197.9 bb)
MP: $37.57 (150.3 bb)
CO: $25 (100 bb)
Hero (BTN): $28.43 (113.7 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9s Qd 9d Jc
CO posts BB OOP, UTG folds, MP raises to $1.10, CO calls $0.85, Hero calls $1.10, SB folds, BB calls $0.85
Flop: ($4.50) Ts Kh 8c (4 players)
BB checks, MP checks, CO checks, Hero bets $2.12, BB calls $2.12, MP calls $2.12, CO folds
Turn: ($10.86) 3d (3 players)
BB checks, MP checks,
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04-08-2021, 12:08 PM
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#2
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veteran
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sacking up and saying thank you.
Posts: 2,462
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Re: that's a wrap
I think this is a check. If we were in this spot with a slightly lower rank board, strengthening our range, and deeper stacks, I think I'd like it more. Vs two opponents I just don't think we get through that often with so little behind. If we do bet it's full pot imo.
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04-08-2021, 03:09 PM
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centurion
Join Date: Dec 2019
Posts: 147
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Re: that's a wrap
I agree, the stack size matters here and I don't think you win with a bet often enough in this spot. Obv betting or checking are both perfectly fine so I dont think you can really screw up bad here, but I'd lean towards the check.
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04-08-2021, 03:49 PM
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Pooh-Bah
Join Date: Mar 2018
Posts: 3,691
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Re: that's a wrap
What about the other two streets?
What should our overall flop strategy be in this spot last to act four-way?
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04-08-2021, 05:02 PM
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#5
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veteran
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Sacking up and saying thank you.
Posts: 2,462
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Re: that's a wrap
Flop strat is largely value driven 4-ways. Pick some K and maybe T with a little extra something going for it (pocket pair, gutshot, nut backdoor suit) if you want some weak bets. But I think straightforward value is going to do pretty well 4ways.
Pre is meh. Would rather have better mw features but the button is cool.
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04-08-2021, 05:11 PM
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 26,466
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Re: that's a wrap
I would consider checking flop. Not having backdoor flush, extra 9x, the a for full nut wrap or board pair all count against you. If we do bet flop, i prefer larger.
As played turn is clear check.
And agree its a fold pre.
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Yesterday, 10:39 AM
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#7
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old hand
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,428
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Re: that's a wrap
If I'm stuck I'm 100% bombing the turn. Checking the blankest of blanks when we either have the nuts or nothing on the river feels meh ... rather check a lot of other hands and we lose a lot of value from our hand.
I fold a lot but I'd have a hard time finding a fold here when I have the button, kind of interested in what robots do ... but obviously they are never in this spot vs. robots.
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Yesterday, 12:07 PM
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#8
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grinder
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Streaming PLO on Twitch: Inky_Poker
Posts: 688
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Re: that's a wrap
Not all wraps are the same, and blocking all the worse draws while unblocking all the pairs is pretty bad.
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Yesterday, 01:01 PM
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adept
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Any place that pants are optional.
Posts: 1,010
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Re: that's a wrap
Don't fold PF on the button with this hand.
Flop bet is fine as no one seems interested and even if we get check raised I'm still not that unhappy to call and see a turn and probably just get it in unless MP was the check raiser.
Given the action and the general disinterest from all parties involved in actually winning the pot I am never checking the turn. It is unlikely that 3d suddenly made someone's hand so either MP has KK and is getting super tricky with his hand or we are up against a pair from MP and a draw from BB.
Turn bet sets you up for a decently sized shove on the river should your hand brick.
You are in position and unless someone does something weird in control of the hand. Playing passively on the turn kills whatever story they think you're telling and is basically giving up.
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