*Please move this thread if this is the wrong place for it.

I was playing some 0.05/0.10 PLO on MPN today when I came across a highly suspicious duo.
Now, they could both just be maniacs and that would be fair enough but there was one hand that ultimately raised my suspicion and thus lead me here. I have never accused anyone of this sort of behavior, so I am curios to see what you guys and gals think and if you maybe have played with those players before.

The players "Zaibux" and "gytis" entered almost all pots together for
over an hour and frequently bet very big, seemingly in order to push
other players out of the pot.

On to the suspicious hand:

Microgaming - €0.10 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 262.2 BB (VPIP: 32.09, PFR: 19.23, 3Bet Preflop: 6.70, Hands: 996)
MP: 279.3 BB (VPIP: 55.42, PFR: 23.51, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 1,548)
CO: 132 BB (VPIP: 21.52, PFR: 11.62, 3Bet Preflop: 0.79, Hands: 4,844)
BTN: 87.9 BB (VPIP: 78.03, PFR: 32.37, 3Bet Preflop: 19.48, Hands: 173)
SB: 607.5 BB (VPIP: 95.45, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 18.52, Hands: 44)
Hero (BB): 326 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A K 6

fold, MP calls 1 BB, fold, BTN calls 1 BB, SB raises to 5 BB, Hero raises to 17 BB, fold, BTN calls 16 BB, SB calls 12 BB

Flop: (52 BB, 3 players) T T Q
SB bets 26 BB, Hero calls 26 BB, BTN raises to 70.9 BB and is all-in, SB raises to 180.8 BB, fold

Turn: (219.8 BB, 2 players) 6

River: (219.8 BB, 2 players) K

BTN shows 3 8 9 K (Two Pair, Kings and Tens)
(Pre 51%, Flop 46%, Turn 50%)
SB shows 7 7 4 3 (Two Pair, Tens and Sevens)
(Pre 49%, Flop 54%, Turn 50%)
BTN wins 216.8 BB

I am curious to see what you think

Update:

Answer from MPN below and I must say I am impressed with how quickly they reacted.

Dear X,

Thank you for your email.

The network have confirmed that action has been taken against certain players following their investigation. I am afraid I cannot give further details due to data protection rules, but we thank you again for your assistance in bringing this to our attention.

If you need help or have any further questions please do not hesitate to ask.

Kind Regards,

You got outplayed hard

Nice to see poker sites actually doing something for a change

By a team of players though. See my second post for a reply from MPN

For real. I was super confused when the answer from their support came back about an hour later, figured it would take weeks

Did you get a refund? If not you should ask for it imo.

I did ask, no reply yet though

I've often seen crap like that on ACR (WPN).

might be worth a shot to bring it to their attention

Edit:

I mean sometimes it is just bad players, but the hand above coupled with how they played in the previous hour did raise all kinds of alarm bells for me

no amount of bad play would justify that. its sketchy hand for sure.

Great to hear that! I am still somewhat new to PLO and was happy to find out that my hunch was true.

Looks like collusion to me also.Interested to see if MPN re going to compensate you with

17bb invested,full pot or anything at all.

Pretty much the same stuff I see all the time when I jump into casino games and there's like a husband/ wife or other similar couple playing the same table. Sometimes you just see them soft play each other but other times they very clearly are colluding when they both stack off super light against a third party to either push them out or take 2 hands worth of equity against the 3rd parties' lone hand.

I don't get it, if hero has it they're ****ed

Hero has an incredibly small stacking off range in this spot.
Even AT is very scary being over 300bb deep with main villain.

I will report back here as soon as I hear from them regarding this.

Both villains had been playing super loose for the last hour, basically ATC, with 100bb this would have been a snap call against them.

Yeah, was very disappointed that I had to fold there, even against two true maniacs.

On the up side, seeing their hands as the pot played out was what made me contact MPN support.

Hi, clearly this is a case of collusion. My sympathy lies with you. I hate when integrity of the game is broken as such.

Im new to 2 plus 2 and seeking some justice for some fraudulent play. Would you be able to share your thoughts on this?

I played on a small private room with stakes at 6 Max 5/10 PLO . Players are able to buy in from 50BB minimum. The game started with just 3 players sat down and few minutes later, the other 3 seats were taken by new nicks never seen before. In short, the game begins to be soft(a lot of limping preflop) with the new 3 players involved most of the time.

UTG fold,
Cutoff call (800)
Button Call (550)
SB call (600)
BB check (600)

4 ways. FLOP K87 rainbow. Pot (40), SB check, BB check, cutoff bet 20, Button call, SB fold, BB check raised to 60, Cutoff reraise to 160 (not full pot), Button call, BB fold.

The hand went to show down with cut of showing KT77(bottom set) and button with a wrap AJT9.

The hands was asked to be investigated due to high level of suspicion and the reports shows that BB is holding Q356.

My question is, given the preflop n flop action and the SPR on flop of >10, can the BB really raise there as a BLUFF with a raise to 60? It seems to be the BB is in cahoots with the cutoff to spice up the pot.

Can anyone justify the small check raise from BB hand on that flop texture and fold to a reraise?

Help me pls

This is just a bad bluff,not collusion.If he wanted to spice up the pot for co,that would

obviously be good for BTN as he has 13card nut wrap and he don`t mind additional players

in the pot.Trust me people are making wayyy more weird bluffs than this one.

would this be a certain asian couple at Star?

+1

you've been durrrrred