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Standard Spot Versus Unknown, Turn Help? Standard Spot Versus Unknown, Turn Help?

01-09-2018 , 01:29 AM
PLO5 on Ignition. Doubled up against the guy who just left the table, about my 4th or 5th hand here. No reads other than villain didn't open limp. Once he doesn't 4 bet, you can remove AA from his range.

I think leading this flop small is standard, although a check call/check fold could be argued for. Once we bet the flop and get called, what is our plan on the turn? Are we check folding/check deciding based on bet size? Should we be leading again to extract value from his draw combos of which there could be a ton on this turn? We don't block any diamonds or spades...

Sorry if super newb question, but been a long time since I did much PLO study and this seems to be a spot I've run into quite a bit and don't know a solid line. We obviously have very little equity to improve on the turn (K or J) but we should be doing okay against a lot of his range that connects with the J that we are currently ahead of.

Appreciate any and all feedback as I'm just getting back into the swing of things after a ~2 year hiatus and coming back from NLHE SNG/MTT grinder reinvented learning PLO .

P.S. Sorry for the ****ty hand formatting, 2+2 hand converter hates my HEM hands pulled out of Ignition.

PokerStars Hand #3551320818: Omaha Pot Limit ($0.02/$0.05) - 2018/01/07 16:52:29
Table '#14040895' 6-max Seat #6 is the button

Seat 1: Hero ($9.33 in chips)
Seat 2: PLR_4272128HA ($5.09 in chips)
Seat 3: PLR_6182112VM ($1.44 in chips)
Seat 5: PLR_8486349XB ($6.48 in chips)
Seat 6: PLR_5540957OI ($4.62 in chips)

Hero: posts small blind $0.02
PLR_4272128HA: posts big blind $0.05

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero [K T 9 J]

PLR_6182112VM: folds
PLR_8486349XB: raises $0.17 to $0.17
PLR_5540957OI: folds
Hero: raises $0.54 to $0.56
PLR_4272128HA: folds
PLR_8486349XB: calls $0.39

*** FLOP *** [J 5 5] ($1.17 before rake)
Seat sit down
Hero: bets $0.48
PLR_8486349XB: calls $0.48

*** TURN *** [J 5 5] [K] ($2.13 before rake)

Hero: ???

Last edited by BAEVentures; 01-09-2018 at 01:46 AM.
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01-09-2018 , 08:12 AM
Cbet turn here with two flush draws on the board. Villain rarely has a 5 here and either has diamonds or AJ, QQxx etc
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01-09-2018 , 09:28 AM
Easy turn bet.
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01-09-2018 , 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by BAEVentures
We obviously have very little equity to improve on the turn (K or J) but we should be doing okay against a lot of his range that connects with the J that we are currently ahead of.
K, J, or non diamond Q, T, 9, 8 all improve our hand to a certain degree, even an A or 7 give us gut shot outs if he happens to have AJxx.

Bet turn, as you've now counterfeit his non diamond / spade Jxxx hands from improving (except AJxx) and we don't want to give free cards with flush and straight draws out.
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01-09-2018 , 08:56 PM
Quote:
K, J, or non diamond Q, T, 9, 8 all improve our hand to a certain degree, even an A or 7 give us gut shot outs if he happens to have AJxx.
Thanks, meant to say improve on the river there =).

Hero bets $1.45 OTT.

Villain tanks and shoves, thoughts?

Pot is $5 roughly and villain is jamming $4 more.

Obviously we have blockers to KK and JJ and unblock all the flush draws.

Thanks for playing along.

Last edited by BAEVentures; 01-09-2018 at 09:05 PM.
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01-10-2018 , 12:34 AM
i dont think we can fold now after betting turn - That K should help villain gain extra draws a - Expect him to show up with a wrap type hands and flush draws with a pair a lot here.
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01-12-2018 , 04:36 AM
I think turn is a b/f, we are up against trips+fd or superdraw too often imo

I also x flop, and I'm not just saying that bc of how the hand played out. we have an immediately showdownable medium strength hand which frequently picks up some kind of medium strength additional equity ott. Very stand flop x imo.
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