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06-17-2009 , 11:05 AM
i have to fold here, right? as i got nothing to bring with my NFD?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BTN/SB: $58.50
Hero (BB): $118.80

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 7 A J T
BTN/SB calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN/SB calls $1

Flop: ($3.00) 6 K 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $2, BTN/SB raises to $8.85, Hero folds
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06-17-2009 , 11:14 AM
I think id give him the one call. If its not a spade it might just be the Q hearts.
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06-17-2009 , 11:37 AM
Fold as you're OOP, your hand is face-up as a draw, he doesn't have many lower flush draws in his range, and you're rarely going to get a free card on the turn when a free card helps you.
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06-17-2009 , 11:41 AM
How can bet/folding a NFD hu ever be good?
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06-17-2009 , 11:57 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LOL LDO
How can bet/folding a NFD hu ever be good?
you mean c/call would be better option? oh.. maybe you right.
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06-17-2009 , 12:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LOL LDO
How can bet/folding a NFD hu ever be good?
He can fold, which is good. He can call, which is also good. It's not like we expect to get raised on this board all that often
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06-17-2009 , 12:15 PM
lol this is standart for those stakes? ;D
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Full Tilt Poker $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

DIN_FRU (BTN/SB): $9999.50
theASHMAN103 (BB): $29999.00

Pre Flop: ($300.00)
DIN_FRU raises to $600, theASHMAN103 raises to $1800, DIN_FRU raises to $5400, theASHMAN103 raises to $16200, DIN_FRU calls $4599.50 all in

Flop: ($19999.00) J J A

Turn: ($19999.00) 6

River: ($19999.00) A

Final Pot: $19999.00
DIN_FRU shows 2 T 9 8 (a pair of Aces)
theASHMAN103 shows 6 2 K 8 (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
theASHMAN103 wins $19998.50
(Rake: $0.50)
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Full Tilt Poker $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

DIN_FRU (BB): $20000.00
theASHMAN103 (BTN/SB): $39998.00

Pre Flop: ($300.00)
theASHMAN103 raises to $600, DIN_FRU raises to $1800, theASHMAN103 raises to $3600, DIN_FRU raises to $10000, theASHMAN103 calls $6400

Flop: ($20000.00) 3 8 3 (2 players)
DIN_FRU checks, theASHMAN103 checks

Turn: ($20000.00) J (2 players)
DIN_FRU checks, theASHMAN103 checks

River: ($20000.00) 6 (2 players)
DIN_FRU checks, theASHMAN103 checks

Final Pot: $20000.00
DIN_FRU shows 6 6 7 J (a full house, Sixes full of Threes)
DIN_FRU wins $19999.50
(Rake: $0.50)
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06-17-2009 , 12:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wazz
He can fold, which is good. He can call, which is also good. It's not like we expect to get raised on this board all that often
ok thx
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06-17-2009 , 12:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2+2=5
lol this is standart for those stakes? ;D
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Full Tilt Poker $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

DIN_FRU (BTN/SB): $9999.50
theASHMAN103 (BB): $29999.00

Pre Flop: ($300.00)
DIN_FRU raises to $600, theASHMAN103 raises to $1800, DIN_FRU raises to $5400, theASHMAN103 raises to $16200, DIN_FRU calls $4599.50 all in

Flop: ($19999.00) J J A

Turn: ($19999.00) 6

River: ($19999.00) A

Final Pot: $19999.00
DIN_FRU shows 2 T 9 8 (a pair of Aces)
theASHMAN103 shows 6 2 K 8 (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
theASHMAN103 wins $19998.50
(Rake: $0.50)
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Full Tilt Poker $100/$200 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

DIN_FRU (BB): $20000.00
theASHMAN103 (BTN/SB): $39998.00

Pre Flop: ($300.00)
theASHMAN103 raises to $600, DIN_FRU raises to $1800, theASHMAN103 raises to $3600, DIN_FRU raises to $10000, theASHMAN103 calls $6400

Flop: ($20000.00) 3 8 3 (2 players)
DIN_FRU checks, theASHMAN103 checks

Turn: ($20000.00) J (2 players)
DIN_FRU checks, theASHMAN103 checks

River: ($20000.00) 6 (2 players)
DIN_FRU checks, theASHMAN103 checks

Final Pot: $20000.00
DIN_FRU shows 6 6 7 J (a full house, Sixes full of Threes)
DIN_FRU wins $19999.50
(Rake: $0.50)
v good degens flipping 4 10k
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06-17-2009 , 07:35 PM
Poker Stars $5/$10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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UTG: $3372.60
MP: $740.00
CO: $920.00
Hero (BTN): $2489.30
SB: $545.00
BB: $2433.50

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BTN with A J A J
UTG raises to $30, MP calls $30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $120, 2 folds, UTG calls $90, MP calls $90

Flop: ($375.00) 3 2 K (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $300, UTG calls $300, MP raises to $620 all in

Is this an easy isolation raise? Both villains are loose and sort of bad imo.
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06-17-2009 , 07:44 PM
The point of the PLO BBV thread, IMO, is to post results.
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06-17-2009 , 07:44 PM
Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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UTG: $13.93
MP: $105.83
CO: $24.84
BTN: $42.00
Hero (SB): $38.10
BB: $26.21

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with 6 A A 3
1 fold, MP raises to $0.85, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.80, 1 fold, MP calls $1.95

Flop: ($5.85) 6 2 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.50, MP raises to $19.35, Hero raises to $35.30 all in, MP calls $15.95

Turn: ($76.45) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($76.45) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $76.45
MP shows T 8 A 8 (a straight flush, Ten high)
Hero shows 6 A A 3 (a flush, Ace high)
MP wins $73.45
(Rake: $3.00)


Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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SB: $44.20
BB: $67.90
UTG: $36.22
MP: $52.60
CO: $25.52
Hero (BTN): $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with K J T Q
UTG raises to $0.85, MP calls $0.85, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.75, 2 folds, UTG calls $2.90, MP calls $2.90

Flop: ($11.60) 7 5 J (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $9, UTG raises to $32.47 all in, MP folds, Hero calls $12.25 all in

Turn: ($54.10) 8 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($54.10) 5 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $54.10
UTG shows A 7 9 T (a straight, Jack high)
Hero shows K J T Q (two pair, Jacks and Fives)
UTG wins $51.40
(Rake: $2.70)

uggh what a stupid game
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06-17-2009 , 07:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DMoogle
The point of the PLO BBV thread, IMO, is to post results.
Wazz gets arsey if I post line checks in the low content thread
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06-17-2009 , 07:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gavz101
Poker Stars $5/$10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $3372.60
MP: $740.00
CO: $920.00
Hero (BTN): $2489.30
SB: $545.00
BB: $2433.50

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BTN with A J A J
UTG raises to $30, MP calls $30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $120, 2 folds, UTG calls $90, MP calls $90

Flop: ($375.00) 3 2 K (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $300, UTG calls $300, MP raises to $620 all in

Is this an easy isolation raise? Both villains are loose and sort of bad imo.
without the J of diamonds your hand is marginal at best, try to limp in and see a cheap flop imo

oh you meant postflop , not easy because utg can flat strong there hoping you reiso but I think he's just flatting with a king or a fd most of time
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06-17-2009 , 07:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gavz101
Poker Stars $5/$10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $3372.60
MP: $740.00
CO: $920.00
Hero (BTN): $2489.30
SB: $545.00
BB: $2433.50

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BTN with A J A J
UTG raises to $30, MP calls $30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $120, 2 folds, UTG calls $90, MP calls $90

Flop: ($375.00) 3 2 K (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $300, UTG calls $300, MP raises to $620 all in

Is this an easy isolation raise? Both villains are loose and sort of bad imo.
I would shove. He's almost never going to have 2 pair, and I'd guess he'd just ship the flop with a decent combo draw or w/e a fair bit of the time.

When he flats and gives the shorty a chance to ship and keep the action open, it's usually a monster or a mediocre hand, and I don't think he can have a monster on this board that often being UTG. I'd shipp
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06-17-2009 , 08:08 PM
busted the 5k plo to the table fish as an 80% favorite.

maybe early to be getting it in on a J34 flop with KKT9 and a fd but the pot was huge and the fish was a fish.

fml as they say. will proceed to donate to y'all at cash tables later.
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06-17-2009 , 08:08 PM
how could possibly he called here??? he can see my cards!!!

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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thatcher11 (BTN/SB): $100.65
Hero (BB): $190.05

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with Q 6 A J
thatcher11 raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, thatcher11 raises to $13.50, Hero calls $9

Flop: ($27.00) 5 9 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, thatcher11 checks

Turn: ($27.00) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $20, thatcher11 calls $20

River: ($67.00) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $50, thatcher11 calls $50

Final Pot: $167.00
thatcher11 shows 6 K K 6 (a pair of Kings)
Hero shows Q 6 A J (high card Ace)
thatcher11 wins $166.
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06-17-2009 , 08:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gavz101
Poker Stars $5/$10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

UTG: $3372.60
MP: $740.00
CO: $920.00
Hero (BTN): $2489.30
SB: $545.00
BB: $2433.50

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BTN with A J A J
UTG raises to $30, MP calls $30, 1 fold, Hero raises to $120, 2 folds, UTG calls $90, MP calls $90

Flop: ($375.00) 3 2 K (3 players)
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $300, UTG calls $300, MP raises to $620 all in

Is this an easy isolation raise? Both villains are loose and sort of bad imo.
I would just try to check it down if I were you - you still have to beat MP whatever UTG does. I don't expect 1 pair / no draw to have that much equity given the action, but also I don't really expect UTG to make a move with a worse hand in a dry side pot. And a big raise isn't getting called by anything you beat, so it's a question of whether you should risk $1800 or so to buy UTG's ~$300 of equity in the pot, assuming he's drawing. Of course MP could have flopped a set and so you'd be taking that risk for much less equity gain.

And at risk of sounding like a boring old nit, even calling the $320 is kind of marginal imo. These guys aren't putting this much money in vs a hand that looks like Aces with stuff you beat. And if they're "kind of bad" you can't really trust then to fold something like a King with the 2nd nut flush draw, which is basically what you're trying to do if you raise?
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06-17-2009 , 08:48 PM
starting to understand why I like flatting pre so much
it's been beaten into me
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06-17-2009 , 09:04 PM
ok fold?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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thatcher11 (BB): $145.05
Hero (BTN/SB): $115.50

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with A A 8 5
Hero raises to $1.50, thatcher11 raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $13.50, thatcher11 calls $9

Flop: ($27.00) 3 J 9 (2 players)
thatcher11 bets $26.50, Hero folds

Final Pot: $27.00
thatcher11 wins $26.50
(Rake: $0.50)
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06-18-2009 , 02:17 AM
just lost 5 buyins in about 300 hands. had the best hand every time. the river ****ing hates me the last week.
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06-18-2009 , 04:36 AM
hey guys, i made another day 2 in a PLO WSOP (this time the 5k). last time in the 2500 my aces got cracked, so to ensure that I win this time around I'm asking all of you to please forfeit your rungood for the day (if you are not playing) and give it to me. This way my aces will hold.

Thanks!
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06-18-2009 , 07:26 AM
Gd Luck Clayton. (edit - 4 irish guys through to day 2 - so up the Irish I suppose)

some beauties from last night involving the same villian.

$1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
5 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG degeneratti ($207.25)
CO slc52088 ($190.10)
BTN Herold1 ($201.80)
SB Hero ($397.00)
BB brown_jose ($289.00)

Pre-flop: ($3, 5 players) Hero is SB A K 9 4
2 folds, Herold1 raises to $7, Hero calls $6, 1 fold

Flop: A 9 5 ($16, 2 players)
Hero checks, Herold1 bets $16, Hero raises to $64, Herold1 calls $48

Turn: J ($144, 2 players)
Hero bets $144, Herold1 goes all-in $130.80

River: 4 ($418.80, 2 players)

Final Pot: $405.60
Herold1 shows: K J 8 T
Hero shows: A K 9 4

Hero wins $415.80 ( won +$200.80 )
Herold1 lost -$201.80

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$1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
6 players
Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
UTG Hero ($592.60)
UTG+1 brown_jose ($409.40)
CO NvV10 ($43.00)
BTN CS50HAH ($287.65)
SB 11djm11 ($127.00)
BB Herold1 ($200.00)
[NvV10 posted $2]

Pre-flop: ($5, 6 players) Hero is UTG 8 7 T A
Hero raises to $9, 1 fold, NvV10 calls $7, 1 fold, 11djm11 calls $8, Herold1 calls $7

Flop: 2 4 8 ($36, 4 players)
11djm11 checks, Herold1 bets $36, Hero calls $36, NvV10 goes all-in $34, 11djm11 folds

Turn: 8 ($142, 3 players)
Herold1 bets $142, Hero raises to $284, Herold1 goes all-in $13

River: Q ($581, 3 players)

Final Pot: $452
Herold1 shows: 5 T 6 J
Hero shows: 8 7 T A
NvV10 shows: J 9 8 T

Hero wins $578 ( won +$249 )
11djm11 lost -$9
Herold1 lost -$200
NvV10 lost -$43

Last edited by BigCityBanker; 06-18-2009 at 07:34 AM.
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06-18-2009 , 11:23 AM
turn bet is ok?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BTN/SB: $75.00
Hero (BB): $52.45

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with Q 5 6 A
BTN/SB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN/SB calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) Q 5 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $6, BTN/SB calls $6

Turn: ($21.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $19, BTN/SB raises to $58.50, Hero calls $22.95 all in

River: ($104.90) K (2 players - 1 is all in)
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06-18-2009 , 04:12 PM
i'm not a fan you don't really get it in good much.

c/r is probably better.
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