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07-17-2016 , 04:14 AM

#38301

tofurocks

adept

Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 870

I think I contracted AIDS from this

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07-17-2016 , 05:36 AM

#38302

kelnel

veteran

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,718

Quote:

Originally Posted by gay_on_tse

z0mg is a very good reg

Finally a sn I recognise!

Im so lost nowadays. I used to know who everyone was. Now Im completely out of touch. I have no idea who im playing against.

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07-17-2016 , 11:26 PM

#38303

gay_on_tse

grinder

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 612

I have the same sn. You do too, right? If you do, you are also a very good reg.

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07-18-2016 , 04:21 AM

#38304

kelnel

veteran

Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,718

Yea same sn too. The fact that u have same sn was my point. Ur sn is one of the few I recognise. See you at the tables

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07-18-2016 , 11:29 AM

#38305

Life Grind

centurion

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 171

took shots at 500 zoom these last couple of weeks, pretty sick outcome.

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07-18-2016 , 01:28 PM

#38306

Grethe

old hand

Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 1,310

Well done! Keep grinding - the swings at z500 are pretty sick

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07-18-2016 , 01:36 PM

#38307

nwb123

enthusiast

Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 83

guys interesting read about bots, you might wanna ask OP this or that about bots...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/28...r-wpn-1619689/

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07-18-2016 , 04:07 PM

#38308

jacknstaxx

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Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 65

I didn't see any problem with your play. Re: We want to bet the nuts for value and semi bluff our strong nut draws (which u had and made on turn)

yes button could have had a # of hands to win on the river but his Turn RR is horrid (unless same hand and he has re draws...hence freerolling). I wanted to ask you can you GPS that dude so u can always find him LOLLLL

It's nice when the money comes easy like that isn't it?

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Originally Posted by juukkk

Well, as I am new I think I have to accept what you are saying. However, can you tell me exactly why you don't like such donk bets? He will fold most of the time, so actually I will be making less money than if I go for a check-raise or sth else?

As for this particular example, I still don't have big enough db and think haven't played against him. However, villian lost 1 bi shortly after he sat down on the table to me. Plus, after that I can definitely say that his VP$iP was >50 and PFR<10, which is what you refer to as donk/morron stats if I am correct. However, he managed to build this >20BB stack and started to raise pre-flop a lot and 2 hands before this I 3-bet him and he 4-betted...I folded than and decided to wait for a better spot. And than this hand, in which I am big underdog only against JJhh and was lucky enough probably to turn a higher straight. And finally I think that my image was tight passive preflop and aggresive postflop if he even was paying attention but I might be wrong.

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07-18-2016 , 04:11 PM

#38309

jacknstaxx

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Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 65

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Originally Posted by eule

stay away from PLO10 @ FT, 10% rake is absurd...

This caught my eye. So, would PLO25 be the solution? or PLO5?

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07-18-2016 , 04:27 PM

#38310

Loctus

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,159

jacknstaxx you are responding to posts that are EIGHT YEARS OLD

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07-18-2016 , 06:12 PM

#38311

javale mc g

journeyman

Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 246

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Originally Posted by Loctus

jacknstaxx you are responding to posts that are EIGHT YEARS OLD

there were things like databases 8 years ago? ***** nits, what happened to go west, run it once, find gold...

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07-19-2016 , 09:44 PM

#38312

Loctus

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,159

Railing some 500zoom on stars (yea I do that). Saw this hand just now. Aces being an underdog to two non-aces hands preflop. wtf. Omaha you silly game

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07-20-2016 , 12:16 AM

#38313

Darkfangs

grinder

Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 540

Curious the action on that 3-way all-in. I assume the ds rundown opens, sb 3-bets, AA-4-bets and then ds rundown shoves and sb calls for kicks? This just seems like an odd spot to GII with that hand pre and I still have no idea how it has more equity than the AA hand.

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07-20-2016 , 05:20 AM

#38314

Loctus

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They aren't fully aipf here, just almost. Notice that HJ and BB have some effective stacks left.

HJ opens, CO 3bets, SB 4bets, BB 5bets, HJ calls (with about tree fiddy left), CO folds, SB calls all in. The flop came something with two diamonds and BB ended up scooping.

But yeah I'm just a bit mindblown over the preflop equities. People (including me) would laugh at the idea to fold these aces pre and here they are sort of crushed against two hands that doesn't seem like they should crush them at all.

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07-20-2016 , 06:15 AM

#38315

tofurocks

adept

Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 870

Brag: Won $1450 in 2 weeks at 15c/30c
Beat: Lost $700 back in 4 days playing bad LAG and running bad
Goddammit FeelsBadMan

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Originally Posted by Loctus

laugh at the idea to fold these aces pre

I mean, it's still ******ed to consider folding them pre right? Unless you are a psychic and can see the other player's cards

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07-20-2016 , 09:11 AM

#38316

Loctus

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,159

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Originally Posted by tofurocks

I mean, it's still ******ed to consider folding them pre right? Unless you are a psychic and can see the other player's cards

But that's almost my point!! If I could see the other player's card in this spot I'd still be like "nice, let's goooo!!!" without even ****ing realizing I was getting smashed equity wise

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07-20-2016 , 02:24 PM

#38317

Darkfangs

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Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 540

Maybe I'm bad but I pretty much never 4-bet SBs hand unless it's double suited and then only against specific villian types, either stars plo plays much different than similiar stakes on american sites, or I'm just bad, or that guy is just bad. I'm leaning towards me being bad here.

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07-20-2016 , 03:00 PM

#38318

Loctus

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Originally Posted by Darkfangs

As you can see he was actually ahead of both the original raiser and the 3bettors hands (results oriented ldo yes). I've never played zoom500 but I'm pretty sure the games are very aggro preflop and if you're not putting AKJT into your cold 4b range you might get wrecked. I mean what's he gonna do, fold? Call? fwiw I'm not bashing your reply here, in my games it isn't a 4b either, but stars MSPLO is likely a different beast

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07-20-2016 , 03:22 PM

#38319

nwb123

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Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 83

Loctus, how do you actually see the cards before hand went to showdown? Even using the replayer, i can see hands only at the showdown

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07-20-2016 , 04:23 PM

#38320

z0mgtiltz

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 10,944

Play the hand backwards from the showdown

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07-21-2016 , 10:08 PM

#38321

Loctus

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This session brought to you by **** my life. inb4 he had J6

(2/4sek so like plo50usd)

Boss, $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37395550

MP: $774 (193.5 bb)
CO: $1,203.68 (300.9 bb)
BTN: $949.50 (237.4 bb)
Hero (SB): $1,234.01 (308.5 bb)
BB: $626.99 (156.7 bb)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2

MP raises to $14, CO calls $14, BTN calls $14, Hero calls $12, BB folds

Flop: ($60) 6

(4 players)
Hero bets $45, MP folds, CO calls $45, BTN calls $45

Turn: ($195) 6

(3 players)
Hero bets $97.50, CO calls $97.50, BTN folds

River: ($390) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $228, CO raises to $862.50, Hero folds

Results: $846 pot ($15 rake)
Final Board: 6

CO mucked and won $831 ($446.50 net)
Hero mucked 2

and lost (-$384.50 net)

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07-21-2016 , 10:31 PM

#38322

Darkfangs

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Join Date: May 2015 Posts: 540

Never folding there, if he has jacks or quads then go him, and I thought I was the nit around here. I doubt he's ever bluffing here but we are ahead of a lot of his value range and how the hell do jacks get there doing that and at plo50ish stakes they likely raise 66 on the flop.

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07-21-2016 , 11:17 PM

#38323

Loctus

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Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 11,159

I did some more boat folding this sesh actually.

Boss, $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 2 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37395556

SB: $739.61 (184.9 bb)
Hero (BB): $576.22 (144.1 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A

SB raises to $12, Hero raises to $36, SB calls $24

Flop: ($72) J

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB bets $54, Hero calls $54

Turn: ($180) Q

(2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks

River: ($180) 9

(2 players)
Hero bets $100, SB raises to $385, Hero folds

Results: $380 pot ($9.49 rake)
Final Board: J

SB mucked and won $370.51 ($180.51 net)
Hero mucked A

and lost (-$190 net)

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07-21-2016 , 11:26 PM

#38324

tofurocks

adept

Join Date: Sep 2015 Posts: 870

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loctus

This session brought to you by **** my life. inb4 he had J6

(2/4sek so like plo50usd)

MP raises to $14, CO calls $14, BTN calls $14, Hero calls $12, BB folds

Flop: ($60) 6

(4 players)
Hero bets $45, MP folds, CO calls $45, BTN calls $45

Turn: ($195) 6

(3 players)
Hero bets $97.50, CO calls $97.50, BTN folds

River: ($390) J

(2 players)
Hero bets $228, CO raises to $862.50, Hero folds

Results: $846 pot ($15 rake)
Final Board: 6

CO mucked and won $831 ($446.50 net)
Hero mucked 2

and lost (-$384.50 net)

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Spoiler:

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07-21-2016 , 11:27 PM

#38325

BigNickDigga

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Join Date: Jan 2016 Posts: 68

Always lose these 600bb+ pots getting it in as a huge equity favourite

Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37395558

BTN: $14.52 (145.2 bb)
SB: $19.40 (194 bb)
BB: $15.81 (158.1 bb)
UTG: $39.17 (391.7 bb)
MP: $23.85 (238.5 bb)
Hero (CO): $62.79 (627.9 bb)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A

UTG raises to $0.35, MP folds, Hero calls $0.35, BTN folds, SB raises to $1.50, BB folds, UTG calls $1.15, Hero raises to $6.10, SB calls $4.60, UTG calls $4.60

Flop: ($18.40) K

(3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $6.60, SB folds, UTG calls $6.60

Turn: ($31.60) T

(2 players)
UTG bets $26.47 and is all-in, Hero calls $26.47

River: ($84.54) K

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Results: $84.54 pot ($43.02 rake)
Final Board: K

UTG showed Q

and won $84.54 ($84.04 net)
Hero showed A

and lost (-$39.17 net)

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