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06-20-2014 , 09:46 PM

#33326

crashwhips

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Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,940

Neither hand played that bad by villain. Getting it in on flop by villain on second hand pretty std in 4bet pot

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06-20-2014 , 10:48 PM

#33327

PokerBritney

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 249

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Originally Posted by crashwhips

Neither hand played that bad by villain. Getting it in on flop by villain on second hand pretty std in 4bet pot

Seems pretty bad punting 200bb off w/ possible 25% equity.

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06-20-2014 , 11:21 PM

#33328

PokerBritney

journeyman

Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 249

Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #28212421

BTN: $200 (100 bb)
SB: $1,795.41 (897.7 bb)
BB: $118.81 (59.4 bb)
UTG: $234.62 (117.3 bb)
Hero (MP): $599.53 (299.8 bb)
CO: $203 (101.5 bb)

Preflop: Hero is MP with T

UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $9, 2 folds, SB raises to $31, BB calls $29, UTG calls $29, Hero calls $22

Flop: ($124) 9

(4 players)
SB bets $121.20, 2 folds, Hero calls $121.20

Turn: ($366.40) T

(2 players)
SB bets $363.60, Hero raises to $447.33 and is all-in, SB calls $83.73

River: ($1,261.06) K

(2 players, 1 is all-in)

Spoiler:

Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

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06-21-2014 , 01:40 AM

#33329

J0hny

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,456

PS online pro is currently bumhunting 50hu and talking trash to recretional players in the chat. Making fun of their plays etc, pretty weird for someone reping stars.
After a 1 min research results doesn't back up the big mouth either.
Why stars is keeping these clowns?

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06-21-2014 , 01:51 AM

#33330

Lemay002

veteran

Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,042

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Originally Posted by J0hny

is that sir freddy or something? I remember kicking his ass 2
3 years ago when I was playing 50 plo. He would wine and berate me in chat.

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06-21-2014 , 01:52 AM

#33331

J0hny

Carpal \'Tunnel

Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,456

yea

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06-21-2014 , 02:45 AM

#33332

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

What SN is this?

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 29,325

We should all just vote to end team online pro.

So ridiculous that Stars somehow has the cash to prop up these morons and fly people in and out of IoM but can't provide fairly raked games. Utter clowns.

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06-21-2014 , 02:54 AM

#33333

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

What SN is this?

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 29,325

Lol I'm so ****ing bad deep, is this standard?

Didn't want to make it a hand post and then get called out for being a BBV one =P

Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #28215201

Hero (BTN): $288.60 (288.6 bb)
SB: $463.58 (463.6 bb)
BB: $401.05 (401.1 bb)
UTG: $16.95 (17 bb)
MP: $150.20 (150.2 bb)
CO: $47.16 (47.2 bb)

Preflop: Hero is BTN with A

UTG raises to $3.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12, SB folds, BB calls $11, UTG raises to $16.95 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.95, BB calls $4.95

Flop: ($51.35) 8

(3 players, 1 is all-in)
BB checks, Hero bets $37, BB raises to $160.04, Hero raises to $271.65 and is all-in, BB calls $111.61

Turn: ($594.65) Q

(3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($594.65) 5

(3 players, 2 are all-in)

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06-21-2014 , 03:37 AM

#33334

jchristo

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Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 2,563

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Originally Posted by ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

err.. unless you know villain I feel like this is kind of a weird post. reads matter a lot here.

eh strongly disagree unless you have some extremely serious read. I don't see how you can construct a range that reraising creates value where calling doesn't play better. Please explain.

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06-21-2014 , 04:53 AM

#33335

ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

What SN is this?

Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 29,325

Hmm I feel like maybe I could be about to learn something.

Why wouldn't we want to just get it in vs a bunch of A5, 95, 678, A-broadway and fd hands which we have great equity against and a lot of which might fold to scary turn cards?

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06-21-2014 , 07:51 AM

#33336

GoGetaRealJob

QuadMasterSupreme

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 7,072

First mistake is potting pre instead of raising to 10.22

Dead side pot makes the stack off much less attractive, but it's not the worst in the world

Eskimo-exception for strat in BBV

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06-21-2014 , 08:39 AM

#33337

mumpfmampf

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,553

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Originally Posted by ESKiMO-SiCKNE5S

Lol I'm so ****ing bad deep, is this standard?

Didn't want to make it a hand post and then get called out for being a BBV one =P

UTG raises to $3.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12, SB folds, BB calls $11, UTG raises to $16.95 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.95, BB calls $4.95

Flop: ($51.35) 8

(3 players, 1 is all-in)
BB checks, Hero bets $37, BB raises to $160.04, Hero raises to $271.65 and is all-in, BB calls $111.61

Turn: ($594.65) Q

(3 players, 2 are all-in)
River: ($594.65) 5

(3 players, 2 are all-in)

Get the Flash Player to use the Hold'em Manager Replayer.

Ok, I´ll use my one time! for villain to hold 9c7c6h4h lol

Seriously though, not sure how this is supposed to be a winning play assuming villain isn´t a total monkey (i.e. KK8J no clubs kind of monkey lol).

Last edited by mumpfmampf; 06-21-2014 at 08:47 AM.

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06-21-2014 , 08:49 AM

#33338

Sokz

old hand

Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 1,331

how bad is Ac for us?

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06-21-2014 , 09:24 AM

#33339

Mt.FishNoob

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Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 12,241

I always find comfort in just a gut shot, but there considering it is flip or screwed or he has air and that he was cold calling preflop can mean he got plenty of low premiums and double pairs - means it looks really bad in a hand history (which can hold implied benefits in future hands

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Originally Posted by GGARJ

Dead side pot makes the stack off much less attractive

I don't get this, as I think that dead money can only increase attraction. It's just a bit towards the neutral side in that hand.

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06-21-2014 , 10:14 AM

#33340

GoGetaRealJob

QuadMasterSupreme

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 7,072

I meant that since there's just the dead sidepot (no money) to bet into OTF, our perceived range for betting is tighter.

Also, villain has only invested 11 bucks to see the flop out 288 eff.

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06-21-2014 , 11:03 AM

#33341

known as Prince

adept

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,147

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob

First mistake is potting pre instead of raising to 10.22

Do you make these calculations in a moment? Pretty impressive.

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06-21-2014 , 11:16 AM

#33342

GoGetaRealJob

QuadMasterSupreme

Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 7,072

lol, would prob ball-park to 10 in game

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06-21-2014 , 11:31 AM

#33343

mumpfmampf

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,553

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoGetaRealJob

First mistake is potting pre instead of raising to 10.22

Ok, I guess I´m stupid, but what´s the difference? Would Hero be able to repot again if the short stack shoves? Or is this just a question of general raising strategy?

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06-21-2014 , 11:40 AM

#33344

apo5tol

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Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,238

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Originally Posted by mumpfmampf

Ok, I guess I´m stupid, but what´s the difference? Would Hero be able to repot again if the short stack shoves? Or is this just a question of general raising strategy?

this. i consider our raise sizing a pretty big blunder, one that i make myself quite a bit when autopiloting, always hate myself for it after

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06-21-2014 , 11:57 AM

#33345

guimz

old hand

Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 1,285

making it 10.22 is suspicious, I would make it 9 9.5 or 10

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06-21-2014 , 12:02 PM

#33346

mumpfmampf

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,553

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Originally Posted by apo5tol

this. i consider our raise sizing a pretty big blunder, one that i make myself quite a bit when autopiloting, always hate myself for it after

Well I guess we can all learn from Gus Hansen sometimes lol

I remember looking at the biggest pot he´s won on FTP. The bet sizing just seemed so strange. It took an almost all-in reshove to understand what he was doing in the first place

http://www.highstakesdb.com/profiles/Gus-Hansen.aspx

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06-21-2014 , 12:14 PM

#33347

known as Prince

adept

Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 1,147

I'm forever thankful for 2+2 for teaching me that trick, it still works!

It's Midsummer in Finland, guess I have to celebrate it somehow. This is how it's done (NSFW):

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Last edited by known as Prince; 06-21-2014 at 12:16 PM. Reason: If the text is not allowed, mods please delete this post. Don't ban me!

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06-21-2014 , 12:39 PM

#33348

J0hny

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,456

woops

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BB): $456.81
BTN/SB: $147.36

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with A

BTN/SB raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4.50, BTN/SB calls $3

Flop: ($9.00) 7

(2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $4.30, Hero raises to $20, BTN/SB raises to $68.60, Hero raises to $214.40, BTN/SB calls $74.26 all in

Turn: ($294.72) 3

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($294.72) 6

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $294.72
Hero shows A

(a flush, Ace high)
BTN/SB shows 6

(a straight, Five to Nine)
Hero wins $294.22

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06-21-2014 , 12:51 PM

#33349

mumpfmampf

old hand

Join Date: Apr 2011 Posts: 1,553

Man, I don´t play heads-up, and I´m a micro donk, but is this really standard 300bb deep?

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06-21-2014 , 01:03 PM

#33350

J0hny

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Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 6,456

Not good against most villains

e:

gg

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN/SB): $538.40
BB: $129.41

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with K

Hero raises to $1.50, BB raises to $4.50, Hero raises to $13.50, BB raises to $40.50, Hero raises to $121.50, BB raises to $129.41 all in, Hero calls $7.91

Flop: ($258.82) 5

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Turn: ($258.82) K

(2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($258.82) Q

(2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $258.82
Hero shows K

(three of a kind, Kings)
BB shows T

(a pair of Fives)
Hero wins $258.32

now time to drink 3 day spree, omaha overdose

Last edited by J0hny; 06-21-2014 at 01:09 PM. Reason: villain is goat mouse clicking maniac whale