Cliffs: if you dare to crush longterm, prepare to get ****ed by your site.

10 bb/100 pre-RB is surely not attainable for most in SSPLO (and it has nothing to do with whether I'm a god; I'm apparently not, can't even lift). Either be happy with 5 bb/100 post-RB (I would), or quit PLO, or start a non-profit poker site (but I can't imagine how you'll make games more attractive there than at established casinos/sportsbooks). Strikes and boycotts won't be effective because they'll reduce the reg-to-fish ratio and thus be more profitable for sites despite the fall in traffic. Did the January 2012 mass sitout, concerning regs of all games unlike PLO rake, succeed?

For-profit poker sites tend to **** longterm winning players nowadays, despite trying not to announce it blatantly. They can't allow the majority of serious players win more than they need to avoid a hungry death, because revenue=deposits-cashouts and they want both increase in deposits and decrease in cashouts. Even post-BF, the fish pool replenishes well if rake goes to advertising, which is proved by 888 showing growth despite having the most rapist rake for fishes too, not only regs.

Lowering the rake is not the only way to prevent the fish pool from burning out too fast. Another way, chosen by today's poker sites, is to smother winning players by high rake, make the worst part of them quit and the remaining ones turn into obedient employees toiling to pay rents. This doesn't work with LHE because games are hardly running at all with the current rake, but in PLO there's no difference to a fish whether 40 or 30 tables are running (it's only a concern of table-selecting regs). By higher rake, sites collect a higher share of fishes' money immediately, while lowering the number of regs makes fishes lose money a bit slower too (if it's needed at all).

Svenska Spel, which has 2.5% rake, has been rather stagnating than growing (read its annual reports), I doubt that it's for-profit, and anyway that's a bit different story as Swedish fish is taught that this site is the only legal one, so there's little competition for fish with foreign sites and no money needed to advertise heavily.

Regarding P* specifically, we've all seen that it's going to relocate fish from 4-card to 5-card Omaha, a much more heavily raked game that's presumably unbeatable by most of non-SNEs. Is other evidence of its policy needed?

Stop showing 'civiс virtue' in vain (I believed that Putin would be overthrown in 2012; he wasn't, and neither will P* in 2013 - there are not enough prerequisites, even less than in January 2012) and making a new tilt trigger out of rake; learn to adapt to the current situation instead (that's a good advice for myself too ).

"tänker jag" is the common finnish way to say "I think" in swedish but the right term is "blablabla, tror jag", directly translated "blablabla, I believe". When you say that you mean I think but say I believe(in swedish). And verb before subject...

and since this is BBV... BAMM, let the heater continue

5bb/100 post RB?

That just seems a bit ridiculous

nom

Aijai, you should know better..

It's what seems to be the average winrate of 'remotely serious' players (VPIP<50%, excluding myself) in my 80K-hand DB (tiny sample, I know) and/or the goal I set for myself (to be able to supply myself). Great players like TheChampster beat the micros at ~20 bb/100 post-RB



but not everyone plays as well; plus, you know, I'd be afraid of being banned from iPoker skins with such a sick winrate (fortunately, with funds paid out)

P.S. When I was doing the BRM analysis I took TheChampster's results for yours as they were in your thread, sorry , but your results are yet similar :

I posted that. Opened client. played 45min. Won 2bi, ran 1.8bi over Ev. pokergods love me.

BUT... BUT... Look at DAT RAKE! He paid like 150% of his profits in Rake! Bleh!

When you were playing live, you weren't so terrified and were just beating the games, weren't you?

Plus he got a fair % of it back. The poker rooms where he played needed to get a share for providing all that awesome fish to him. The question is, how much of it was pocketed and how much was returned into the economy and spent on popularising the game; it boils down to our trust in rooms.

Yeah I thought jumping into PLO100 was a bit daring alright

PLO$50 (some PLO€50) are the tables I open first now. Followed by PLO£20 and PLO€20 and if there aren't enough running then PLO$20

Maxibeat is something to which you can only laugh..

Back from a little ban

Bought this car last week:

BMW f30 330d m-sport (3L turbo diesel)
19" alloys
sports seat
sat nav/professional media package
Visibility package (adaptive healights, high beam assist, xenons etc.)
m-sport adaptive suspension
HK upgrade surround system
Servotronic steering

forgot what other extras I got... gonna b boss!

pic (gonna be this colour, obv not the petrol version though):



Gets delivered in about 5-6 weeks

Nice1! How much?

You don't wanna hear how much, UK car prices can take your jelly levels dangerously high when you live in the promised land of car taxing.

About $61,250 in USD

I'd stake like 20 people with that money but meh, if TGSM wants to bury his capital in hardly useful aggregates now it's his right...

Will make me money by improving life quality, better disposition, less tilt and increase hourly (semi joke).

Also, bitches like nice cars

as for staking - why invest in that when you can invest in playing higher stakes o_O

hadn't look at my graph for a long time... I knew i was running bad, but got mind blown

ffs - 80% is 2/4 - i should not have looked - i'm on mad tilt now

I was thinking about that, but still had to ask. Now I'm preeeetty jelly..

wp

ouch Masta ...

Fair enough, to everyone his own. I've just always preferred sweating to playing myself (in any game) , plus I'd love to 50-table two limits lower because of lower variance and a higher bb/100 winrate but I physically can't, so I'd rather have horses do it for me, feeling laika boss It's a higher status in the poker hierarchy than just a grinder.

Also, don't forget that having others play for you frees time for coaching (I mean, not only horses). It's a way less draining job, I guess that's why passing has chosen it , although it has a smaller hourly than grinding.

I don't know bitches' minds but they must like bosses; having 20 'serves' must be a good turn-on (I mean 'in the long run', not for a single night).

wtf is this