Best Day for me so far at PLO25, 20 BI, 7k hands 29.67bb/100:

qwazi hang in there dude. when you come back book a win even if it's a small one. gl

Full Tilt - $0.25 Ante $0.05 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: $8.41
UTG: $30.93
MP: $63.80
CO: $50.19
Hero (BTN): $50.00
SB: $120.51

6 players post ante of $0.05, SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.65) Hero has J 8 Q 7

UTG raises to $1.15, fold, CO calls $1.15, Hero calls $1.15, SB raises to $6.30, BB raises to $8.36 and is all-in, UTG calls $7.21, CO calls $7.21, Hero calls $7.21, SB calls $2.06

Flop: ($42.10, 5 players) 6 K Q
SB checks, UTG checks, CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($42.10, 5 players) 7
SB bets $42.10, fold, fold, Hero calls $41.59 and is all-in

lol, nice what you were thinking each street

[x] +700bb pot
[x] 97,5 % favorite
[ ] Win $$$

Damn, how tilty I am! I've just run into a Russian whose SN was stating that my fav Russian football team sucks. What's worse, he's a LAG and his stats initially indicated fishiness, but he's quite good, makes good thin 4-bets IP. I was demoralised, e.g. played very weak-tight in one of our biggest pots so far (not because I was afraid of RIT switched off - I was just too willing to stack him).

Full Tilt - $0.50 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: $25.60
CO: $63.45
BTN: $107.10
Hero (SB): $66.70
BB: $41.00

Hero posts SB $0.25, BB posts BB $0.50

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.75) Hero has 6 Q T Q

fold, fold, BTN raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.25, fold

Flop: ($3.50, 2 players) Q 6 8
Hero checks, BTN bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

Turn: ($8.50, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($8.50, 2 players) J
Hero bets $4.25, BTN raises to $14.50, fold

BTN wins $16.15

Donking the flop was obv the best...

Moral: when you leave the greedy poker factory called Stars and make an account on a good network, use the SN 'coonsucks' and I won't touch your fishy tables

lots of 2p2ers are saing that its ''impossible'' move up frm plo10 to plo400 because rake is killing the game. people are talking about this here http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...ables-1272099/ and here http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/15...games-1289667/.

mig made this post, i wanted answer him, but didn't want talk about this on the thread about rake.

i never said it was easy, i just said it was possible. yes mig, im interesseted in doing one prop bet related on this. ofc 4:1 against me its ridiculous joke...and if you guys are saying ''nobody'' move up from plo10 to plo400, i guess who deserve the best odds its me, no?

well, im posting this to ask for suggestions about details etc. what stake, how many months... i will trown somethings that cross my head, just some ideas, some of this ideas might be bad/impossible, others might can be improved and be a real propbet/challenge.

i thought about

- 200buy ins in one month at plo10, but i don't think its possible, just an idea... maybe 200bi in 40days, or 150bi in 1month its more realistic.

- 6bb/100 at plo50 over 100k hands. maybe over 200k hands? could be at plo100. or plo50 w 8bb/100. or maybe 10bb/100. depends on odds...

- start w $100 deposit, from 0.01/0.02 up to 5/10 until december. i don't want this because i don't want play too many months lower than my standard games (2/4-3/6), would be hard for me maintain sne doing this, but maybe if receive huge action w great odds... maybe from plo10 up to plo400 in 6months...

just some ideas, if others has ideas, pls say.

mig i will snap do that but more $$$$ and different odds

Omaha Pot Limit ($0.25/$0.50 USD)
Seat 1: VILLAIN ($213.19 in chips)
Seat 2: HERO ($721.35 in chips)
VILLAIN: posts small blind $0.25
HERO: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [Ad Jd Kd Th]
VILLAIN: raises $1 to $1.50
HERO: raises $3 to $4.50
VILLAIN: calls $3
*** FLOP *** [6c 3c 6s]
HERO: bets $6
VILLAIN: calls $6
*** TURN *** [6c 3c 6s] [Ks]
HERO: bets $15
VILLAIN: raises $50.50 to $65.50
HERO: calls $50.50
*** RIVER *** [6c 3c 6s Ks] [8c]
HERO: checks
VILLAIN: bets $137.19 and is all-in
VILLAIN said, " time+"
HERO said, "gonna call"
HERO said, "ak"
HERO said, "you have 3457 or something"
HERO said, "?"
VILLAIN said, "lol ok"
HERO: calls $137.19
*** SHOW DOWN ***
VILLAIN: shows [2s Qs 5h 9s] (a pair of Sixes)
HERO: shows [Ad Jd Kd Th] (two pair, Kings and Sixes)
HERO collected $425.88 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $426.38 | Rake $0.50
Board [6c 3c 6s Ks 8c]
Seat 1: VILLAIN (button) (small blind) showed [2s Qs 5h 9s] and lost with a pair of Sixes
Seat 2: HERO (big blind) showed [Ad Jd Kd Th] and won ($425.88) with two pair, Kings and Sixes

joe, say what you think.

btw, depending on the odds, i might bet against you joe. i don't think its easy, id like to make one challenge on this, but im fine if other guy (joe or anyother) take and try.

I def think its easy depending on what you are classifying as moving up to 1k plo for br required but wouldn't make much sense for either of us to do unless it was for heaps of money. Can make wayyyy more money just playing regular

Anyone can go from plo 10 to plo 1k by taking aggressive shots.

Bet would have to have strict b/r management with BI number and not SNE rakeback obviously. Don't think it will ever go as nobody is going to get enough on the side to pull something like that.

Also my point was mainly at urubu stating it's easy to climb the PLO ladder with b/r management getting 15% rb on stars when in fact it's probably super hard for most regs. Money as to go up and right now it's going mainly sideways right into PS pockets. TBH I have been playing 1/2-2/4 for 3 years mainly and out of all the regs I have seen barely any made it to 5/10+

i started playing 6max last year and i saw many 1/2 players going to 5/10. unforutnally i have bad memory , so i can't say names, but im sure many move up from 0.5/1 to 5/10.

I suggest urubu to start at the magic number of $600 (the maximum first deposit bonus size) and mix PLO25 in from the very beginning, set the goal at $30K (75 BI for PLO400; people were talking about reaching 2/4, not 5/10, right?), conserve FPPs and cash out stellar rewards and milestone bonuses (easily trackable once the VPP count is shown to bettors). Then only 2-3 months will be 'lost': at PLO50 mixed with PLO100 it's already possible to sustain the SNE pace playing zillions of tables like keevo

Meanwhile I'm thinking about a somewhat opposite challenge, namely I want to abuse RB opportunities to the maximum:

^ if one of u completes that challenge, then you're almost guaranteed to get stars team pro, if that's something that interests u guys

How much is team pro worth? I've always wondered.

i believe about $350k

Wow!

Thanks man

he's trolling. I'm pretty sure the online pros get a $100k/year bonus, but it has to be cleared, i think it was 500kvpps to clear all of it.

edit: oh you were asking about the pro team? then it might be 350, who knows, seems insanely high tho considering who they have as stars pros

What's the point in trolling?

i wonder how much longer people will fall for that joke, seems like it never stops

as long as people have never heard the joke i guess

still unsure as to what the joke was...never mind

i always wonder this too...i think depends a lot on the person and the reason - did you sign up because you are good at poker? because you are famous at your country? because you beautiful liv boree? because you won wsop? depends also your conutry etc. imo numbers will varie a lot...

just to trown some numbers, i think avg stars pro receive 100k/year and big names waaay more than that. i guess negreanu and isildur receive around 1million/year, liv boree 300k/year, vanessa sbelst 150k.

i have no idea if im right , close, or far away from real numbers, just some speculation... would like to hear what others think.

i also didnt get the joke... wheres the joke?