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01-18-2009 , 02:23 PM
F u im not a degen! Im going to ship the sunday million tonight instead because if I am running bad in cash games it obviously means I am going to run well in tournaments
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01-18-2009 , 02:41 PM
get them! gogogo
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01-18-2009 , 04:11 PM
" never bluff tilted guy

PokerStars, $0.25/0.50 Omaha Cash Games, 5 Players
Hand Converter by Pokerhand.org

Board:
stakehar (SB): $50
tørrpinnen (BB): $43.50
kolita77 (UTG): $73.05
mkurtime (CO): $92.30
HERO (Button): $143.25

Dealt to HERO 3 J J 4

Pre-flop:
(1 folds)
mkurtime raises to $1.50
HERO calls $1.50
stakehar calls $1.25
tørrpinnen calls $1

Flop: ($6) 6 5 2 (4 Players)
stakehar checks
tørrpinnen checks
mkurtime bets $3
HERO calls $3
(1 folds)
tørrpinnen calls $3

Turn: ($15) 8 (3 Players)
tørrpinnen checks
mkurtime bets $11
HERO raises to $47.30
(1 folds)
mkurtime calls $36.30

River: ($109.60) 7 (2 Players)
mkurtime bets $25
HERO raises to $91.45 and is all-in
(1 folds)
HERO returns $66.45

Results:
HERO Showed 3 J J 4
HERO wins $157.60

i hope i kicked off better straight.
i hope...
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01-18-2009 , 04:33 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gavz101
F u im not a degen! Im going to ship the sunday million tonight instead because if I am running bad in cash games it obviously means I am going to run well in tournaments
you just made me do same thing! gl hope to see you at final table!
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01-18-2009 , 05:11 PM
woooo only took 6 ****** sats to get in! i didnt run dreadful in all of them thank god
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01-18-2009 , 05:14 PM
After crashing out of 3/6 tournaments already and realizing how horrendous they are I am reconsidering....
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01-18-2009 , 06:40 PM
Ugh..... these two beats occurred pretty much simultaneously on separate tables (both of which were deep stacked tables btw).

First one was seemingly a dream flop, and I end up getting it in as an overwhelming 72/28 favorite, but obv don't hold.


Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players

BB: $337.20
UTG: $882.05
CO: $410.70
Hero (BTN): $1430.80
SB: $887.80

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN with Q 8 6 Q
1 fold, CO calls $4, Hero calls $4, SB calls $2, BB checks

Flop: ($16.00) 3 Q 4 (4 players)
SB bets $16, BB folds, CO folds, Hero raises to $64, SB raises to $208, Hero raises to $504, SB raises to $883.80 all in, Hero calls $379.80

Turn: ($1783.60) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($1783.60) 7 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $1783.60
Hero shows Q 8 6 Q (a flush, Queen high)
SB shows K 5 4 3 (a flush, King high)
SB wins $1780.60



Second hand occurred literally no more than 30 seconds after the first one, and I got it in expecting it to be a flip or something vs like Aces and the NFD, but instead I was more of a favorite than I thought I would be, I think like 60/40, as villain apparently felt like gambling during this hand and could have easily been in much worse shape than he was. But yeah, of course I lost this one too since all of my run-good from earlier this month has been nonexistent the past few days.


Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players

BB: $866.70
UTG: $378.00
CO: $201.00
Hero (BTN): $816.30
SB: $927.40

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN with T Q 8 K
UTG calls $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $18, SB raises to $62, 1 fold, UTG calls $58, Hero calls $44

Flop: ($190.00) J K 8 (3 players)
SB bets $190, UTG folds, Hero raises to $540, SB raises to $865.40 all in, Hero calls $214.30 all in

Turn: ($1698.60) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($1698.60) 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $1698.60
Hero shows T Q 8 K (two pair, Kings and Eights)
SB shows 7 5 4 J (a flush, King high)
SB wins $1695.60


Needless to say I had to end my session early after these two hands.
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01-19-2009 , 01:31 AM
Rough night, dropped 6 buyins running pretty awful.

Lost this pot as a 90% fav on the turn, then decided to quit the session blah

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 11696
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CO: $57.60
BTN: $105.45
SB: $85.05
BB: $69.90
Hero (UTG): $81.80
MP: $50.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with K J 8 Q
Hero raises to $1.75, 2 folds, BTN calls $1.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($4.25) 9 T 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.50, BTN raises to $9.50, Hero calls $6

Turn: ($23.25) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $15, Hero requests TIME, Hero raises to $68.25, BTN raises to $94.20 all in, Hero calls $2.30 all in

River: ($164.35) T (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $164.35
BTN shows 4 T 8 7 (a full house, Tens full of Sevens)
Hero shows K J 8 Q (a straight, Jack high)
BTN wins $161.35
(Rake: $3.00)
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01-19-2009 , 11:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by gavz101
F u im not a degen! Im going to ship the sunday million tonight instead because if I am running bad in cash games it obviously means I am going to run well in tournaments
U play Omaha.. then you a degen
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01-19-2009 , 01:36 PM
on the river i was like wtfffffffffffffffffff


PokerStars, $0.25/0.50 Omaha Cash Games, 6 Players
Hand Converter by Pokerhand.org

Board:
IsKQA23aStr8 (Button): $56.15
Hexer75 (SB): $50
UVImpaler (BB): $50.75
HERO (UTG): $163.35
sep80 (UTG+1): $51.20
francis9 (CO): $50.50

Dealt to HERO 8 J A K

Pre-flop:
HERO raises to $1.75, (1 folds), francis9 raises to $6, (3 folds), HERO calls $4.25

Flop: ($12.75) 3 6 8 (2 Players)
HERO checks, francis9 bets $9, HERO raises to $39.15, francis9 raises to $44.50 and is all-in, HERO calls $5.35

Turn: ($101.75) 4 (2 Players)

River: ($101.75) 8 (2 Players)

Results:
HERO Showed 8 J A K
francis9 Showed A 3 3 4
francis9 wins $98.75

well, nice hand to 3bet. especially from guy with stats 13/10/4.5 over 90 hands
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01-19-2009 , 02:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by AU Stormcrow


Second hand occurred literally no more than 30 seconds after the first one, and I got it in expecting it to be a flip or something vs like Aces and the NFD, but instead I was more of a favorite than I thought I would be, I think like 60/40, as villain apparently felt like gambling during this hand and could have easily been in much worse shape than he was. But yeah, of course I lost this one too since all of my run-good from earlier this month has been nonexistent the past few days.


Full Tilt Poker $2/$4 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players

BB: $866.70
UTG: $378.00
CO: $201.00
Hero (BTN): $816.30
SB: $927.40

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN with T Q 8 K
UTG calls $4, 1 fold, Hero raises to $18, SB raises to $62, 1 fold, UTG calls $58, Hero calls $44

Flop: ($190.00) J K 8 (3 players)
SB bets $190, UTG folds, Hero raises to $540, SB raises to $865.40 all in, Hero calls $214.30 all in

Turn: ($1698.60) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in)

River: ($1698.60) 3 (2 players - 2 are all in)

Final Pot: $1698.60
Hero shows T Q 8 K (two pair, Kings and Eights)
SB shows 7 5 4 J (a flush, King high)
SB wins $1695.60


Needless to say I had to end my session early after these two hands.
OOOOPS Iwas tilting pretty hard at this point and once i pot flop i aint never folding. You are also very tough to play btw!
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01-19-2009 , 02:46 PM
Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 11971
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UTG: $214.85
MP: $305.45
CO: $253.10
BTN: $158.95
SB: $221.85
Hero (BB): $726.80

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with 9 T J Q
3 folds, BTN raises to $7, 1 fold, Hero raises to $20, BTN calls $13

Flop: ($41.00) 3 T 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $38, BTN calls $38

Turn: ($117.00) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $114, BTN calls $100.95 all in

River: ($318.90) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $318.90
BTN shows 7 K A 8 (a straight, Six to Ten)
Hero shows 9 T J Q (two pair, Queens and Tens)
BTN wins $315.90
(Rake: $3.00)

Stacked this guy a couple of hands before and he wins 75BB back here.

He is also guilty of being an *******.
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01-19-2009 , 05:24 PM
im tempted to start playing bad and just shoving the turn when i have non nut straight on obv broadway boards vs idiots who i guess are value betting two pairs

of course i puy them on a bluff and pay off every singel time the river pairs since it makes no ****ing sense what they are doing.
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01-19-2009 , 07:25 PM
Prespoterous!


Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players - View hand 12169
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Hero (SB): $114.35
BB: $104.00
UTG: $102.65
CO: $126.65
BTN: $21.85

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with J Q K 9
1 fold, CO raises to $3.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $11.50, 1 fold, CO calls $8

Flop: ($24.00) 9 8 T (2 players)
Hero bets $15, CO raises to $69, Hero raises to $102.85 all in, CO calls $33.85

Turn: ($229.70) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($229.70) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $229.70
Hero shows J Q K 9 (a flush, Jack high)
CO shows 7 Q J T (a flush, Queen high)
CO wins $226.70
(Rake: $3.00)
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01-20-2009 , 01:31 AM
just cus i feel better:

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 12419
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MP: $200.00
CO: $274.95
BTN: $121.05
SB: $365.90
Hero (BB): $200.00
UTG: $235.85

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with J A A 7
2 folds, CO raises to $5, BTN calls $5, SB raises to $14, Hero raises to $52, 2 folds, SB calls $38

Flop: ($114.00) 2 5 K (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $114, SB raises to $228, Hero calls $34 all in

Turn: ($410.00) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($410.00) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $410.00
SB shows A K Q T (a straight, King high)
Hero shows J A A 7 (a pair of Aces)
SB wins $407.00
(Rake: $3.00)

AA vs AA.

Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players - View hand 12420
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UTG: $227.00
MP: $34.10
CO: $197.50
BTN: $119.80
Hero (SB): $200.00
BB: $40.75

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is SB with A A T 2
UTG calls $2, MP calls $2, CO calls $2, BTN raises to $13, Hero raises to $47, 4 folds, BTN raises to $119.80 all in, Hero calls $72.80

Flop: ($247.60) 3 Q 4

Turn: ($247.60) 6

River: ($247.60) 3

Final Pot: $247.60
BTN shows A 3 7 A (three of a kind, Threes)
Hero shows A A T 2 (two pair, Aces and Threes)
BTN wins $244.60
(Rake: $3.00)
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01-20-2009 , 01:41 AM
why would you pot the flop in the first hand?
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01-20-2009 , 01:48 AM
WOAHHH:

Full Tilt Poker $500/$1000 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players - View hand 12339
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Phil Ivey (BB): $455987.50
Ziigmund (BTN/SB): $245945.50

Pre Flop: ($1500.00)
Ziigmund raises to $3000, Phil Ivey raises to $9000, Ziigmund raises to $27000, Phil Ivey raises to $81000, Ziigmund requests TIME, Ziigmund calls $54000

Flop: ($162000.00) 6 Q 9 (2 players)
Phil Ivey bets $162000, Ziigmund raises to $164945.50 all in, Phil Ivey calls $2945.50

Turn: ($491891.00) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($491891.00) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $491891.00
Phil Ivey shows 4 A A 2 (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
Ziigmund shows 2 K 7 9 (two pair, Nines and Sixes)
Phil Ivey wins $491890.50
(Rake: $0.50)

THEN.....

Ziigmund: lets take 1 flip
Phil Ivey: how much?
Ziigmund: what do u thin+k
Ziigmund: ????
Phil Ivey: what u have in front of u?
Ziigmund: when i flip i really flip
Phil Ivey: hahaha
Ziigmund: ok all in
Phil Ivey: k this hand for what u have in front of u
Point of View (Observer): OMG LOL
Roland de Wolfe (Observer): glgl
HibachiMariachi (Observer): omg
vocaltrax (Observer): wow
Yan9130 (Observer): hey roland
TakingYouDown (Observer): sick
uloseha1 (Observer): LOL
Ziigmund: 247Q
David Benefield (Observer): jesus
David Benefield (Observer): christ
TWiTCHaH (Observer): SICK
Meepo1 (Observer): 4 deuces pls
uloseha1 (Observer): SICKSICKSICK
pepperdinenow (Observer): unreal
benz1987 (Observer): lolool
PossumHopper (Observer): this is awesome
Yan9130 (Observer): SICK
Ziigmund has 15 seconds left to act
MoNteiRoZoR (Observer): OMGGGGG
Ziigmund raises to $9,000
360flip19 (Observer): oh my god
leepunk13 (Observer): flipping for 400k??????
ClBball15 (Observer): --EV MOVE ZIG, IVEY KING OF FLIPS, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
johnny 2 toes (Observer): lol
Phil Ivey has 15 seconds left to act
sayo (Observer): sickkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
Phil Ivey: j10 6 4
leepunk13 (Observer): wow
johnny 2 toes (Observer): glgl
killer_kill420 (Observer): so sik to watch
Phil Ivey raises to $27,000
Phampia (Observer): lol
johnny 2 toes (Observer): gl
johnny 2 toes (Observer): gl
Ziigmund raises to $81,000
timh2004 (Observer): 200k freakin flip
Yan9130 (Observer): all pros are here
STOLEURPANTIES (Observer): lol
Serradimigni (Observer): hahahahahhaahahha
Roland de Wolfe (Observer): ivey aces?
SuperDave923 (Observer): WOW
timh2004 (Observer): my goodness
STOLEURPANTIES (Observer): zomg
CrazzY66 (Observer): ***** siko's
killer_kill420 (Observer): flips for 200k
Frigley (Observer): lmfao
JeffLahh (Observer): oh @#%&
Phil Ivey raises to $243,000
benz1987 (Observer): roooffllll
spliff3845 (Observer): gl gl
Frigley (Observer): wow
Ziigmund calls $110,996.50, and is all in
JeffLahh (Observer): LOL
Phil Ivey shows [6c 4h Ts Jh]
Ziigmund shows [7d 2c Qh 4d]
johnny 2 toes (Observer): gl
Uncalled bet of $51,003.50 returned to Phil Ivey
johnny 2 toes (Observer): gl
*** FLOP *** [Qc 7h Ah]
360flip19 (Observer): wwwwwwhhhhhoooaaa
STOLEURPANTIES (Observer): q
STOLEURPANTIES (Observer): q
STOLEURPANTIES (Observer): q
*** TURN *** [Qc 7h Ah] [Qs]
STOLEURPANTIES (Observer): q
STOLEURPANTIES (Observer): q
Frigley (Observer): jesus
STOLEURPANTIES (Observer): q
STOLEURPANTIES (Observer): q
*** RIVER *** [Qc 7h Ah Qs] [3c]
Phil Ivey shows a pair of Queens
Ziigmund shows a full house, Queens full of Sevens
Ziigmund wins the pot ($383,992.50) with a full house, Queens full of Sevens
CrazzY66 (Observer): wow
sonnix (Observer): OMG
astral7 (Observer): omg
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $383,993 | Rake $0.50
Board: [Qc 7h Ah Qs 3c]
Seat 1: Phil Ivey (small blind) showed [6c 4h Ts Jh] and lost with a pair of Queens
Seat 2: Ziigmund (big blind) showed [7d 2c Qh 4d] and won ($383,992.50) with a full house, Queens full of Sevens
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01-20-2009 , 02:11 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bukem_
why would you pot the flop in the first hand?
cus i figured if he is callin $80, he will call POT, and will likely show up with Kxxx gayness. so i shipped, he shoved and showed up with AKxx and was a nice dog at around 20% but he gets there obv.

also, pot button is easier than scrollin for some 'tricky' amount.

i wanted to get it in on flop since im way ahead of his range
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01-20-2009 , 02:12 AM
i dont get it:

Full Tilt Poker $500/$1000 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players - View hand 12441
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Gus Hansen (BB): $56999.50
durrrr (BTN/SB): $272982.50

Pre Flop: ($1500.00)
durrrr raises to $3000, Gus Hansen raises to $9000, durrrr raises to $27000, Gus Hansen raises to $56999.50 all in, durrrr calls $29999.50

Flop: ($113999.00) J 4 5

Turn: ($113999.00) 4

River: ($113999.00) 7

Final Pot: $113999.00
Gus Hansen shows 2 Q Q J (two pair, Queens and Fours)
durrrr shows 9 A K 7 (two pair, Sevens and Fours)
Gus Hansen wins $113998.50
(Rake: $0.50)
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01-20-2009 , 04:52 AM
why not.
durr little repping AA/KK and he has fairly good equity against anything that AA/KK, especially with suited ace.

its like 4betting AK in holdem imo

im not sure against hansen play though
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01-20-2009 , 05:30 AM
PLO 11 cubed on stars.....FT bubble for chip lead...i hate my ****ing life


Poker Stars $10+$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi Tournament - t2500/t5000 Blinds - 5 players - View hand 12506
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UTG: t125083 M = 16.68
CO: t166307 M = 22.17
Hero (BTN): t139293 M = 18.57
SB: t262910 M = 35.05
BB: t173381 M = 23.12

Pre Flop: (t7500) Hero is BTN with 7 6 5 4
2 folds, Hero raises to t12345, 1 fold, BB raises to t39535, Hero calls t27190

Flop: (t81570) 9 6 4 (2 players)
BB bets t81570, Hero raises to t99758 all in, BB calls t18188

Turn: (t281086) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t281086) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t281086
Hero shows 7 6 5 4 (two pair, Nines and Sixes)
BB shows T A A 3 (two pair, Aces and Nines)
BB wins t281086
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01-20-2009 , 05:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by alavet
why not.
durr little repping AA/KK and he has fairly good equity against anything that AA/KK, especially with suited ace.

its like 4betting AK in holdem imo

im not sure against hansen play though
4-betting AKxx is absolutely nothing like 4-betting AK in hold'em. AK is the nuts preflop in hold'em, and AKxx is usually going to be a marginal, sometimes very marginal hand in omaha.

durrrr's play is total spew IMO unless he thinks thinks he actually has fold equity, which I doubt he does against Gus with those stack sizes (I don't actually know how Gus plays, but I'm guessing he's not the type to make preflop folds).

I think Gus' play is pretty bad as well, but not as bad as Tom's.
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01-20-2009 , 01:04 PM
Full Tilt Poker $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players - View hand 12689
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Hero (BTN/SB): $200.00
BB: $200.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN/SB with K 7 8 7
Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $10, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($20.00) T 3 J (2 players)
BB bets $20, Hero calls $20

Turn: ($60.00) K (2 players)
BB bets $60, Hero calls $60

River: ($180.00) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $110 all in, Hero calls $110 all in

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $400.00
Hero shows Kc 7s 8s 7c (a flush, King high)
BB shows Ks Ac 3d 5s (two pair, Kings and Threes)
Hero wins $399.50
(Rake: $0.50)


Much better way to start a session than him having the nut flush imo.
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01-20-2009 , 01:08 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DMoogle
4-betting AKxx is absolutely nothing like 4-betting AK in hold'em. AK is the nuts preflop in hold'em, and AKxx is usually going to be a marginal, sometimes very marginal hand in omaha.

durrrr's play is total spew IMO unless he thinks thinks he actually has fold equity, which I doubt he does against Gus with those stack sizes (I don't actually know how Gus plays, but I'm guessing he's not the type to make preflop folds).

I think Gus' play is pretty bad as well, but not as bad as Tom's.
No one should 3-bet/fold like anything versus Tom heads up in PLO with 60 BB stacks. I think Hansen's play is completely standard in the hand. Not that there's anything wrong with calling and seeing a flop with his hand, but there's nothing wrong with 3-betting it either.
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01-20-2009 , 02:00 PM
and AKxx is usually going to be a marginal, sometimes very marginal hand in omaha.

ok, so give me an example of a hand except KK+ which is dominating his hand?
Hand Pot equity
a78k 49.93%
9tjq 50.07%

a78k 60.68%
6789 39.32%

a78k 49.67%
aj9t 50.33%

only bad combo against him is two pais (dunno why btw)
a78k 41.93%
99tt 58.07%

and even against kk he has good equity
a78k 42.18%
kk** 57.82%

he is at least flipping or dominating big % of possible hands of gus, and i believe he might have fold equity there. so i dont see this play awfull until his opponent has kk+ big % of time.


also gus is shortstacked and easily may push worse hands than AK
i dont see his play bad untill he has good roll for the game.
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