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02-27-2011 , 10:15 PM
is it standard to play way more aggro than normal after moving up? today i spewed and barreled like twosevoff himself on the 200 tables, game is pretty swingy when playing like that
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02-27-2011 , 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Johan5390
is it standard to play way more aggro than normal after moving up? today i spewed and barreled like twosevoff himself on the 200 tables, game is pretty swingy when playing like that
fwiw, i do this too. i have two stakes that i cannot help but play like a complete isis wanabe, and 3 stakes where i play pretty damn well. u can prob figure out which stakes i am speaking of lolz. obv mean 50 and up
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02-28-2011 , 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Johan5390
is it standard to play way more aggro than normal after moving up? today i spewed and barreled like twosevoff himself on the 200 tables, game is pretty swingy when playing like that
sounds like u ran hot tho^^
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02-28-2011 , 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by SuchARush
The variance is out of prospect when the edge is small/none excisting. Have you tried HU suckout?
lol.
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02-28-2011 , 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by suckoutgenius
lol.
+1

Hearing people talk like that tilts me sooo hard, especially when I run like ****.
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02-28-2011 , 08:35 AM
After losing 35bi of profit at 1/2 and .5/1 on FT/PS in 10K hands (close to worst run of cards ever **** this game lulz o_O) Looks like I'm on my road to recovery



Also I'll take as much G-Bucks as I can get and I and would give Phil Galfond a hug, Sklansky and his bucks can suck my nuts (he obv never played 3, 4, or 5 bet pots in PLO o_O(_(~(O_o^_^
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02-28-2011 , 08:51 AM
^ you started off bullying and got paid the rest of the session. that's the way to do it, good times!
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02-28-2011 , 10:37 AM
I tend to do the opposite Johan. Play the higher limit even nittier than my normal limit.
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02-28-2011 , 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SuchARush
The variance is out of prospect when the edge is small/none excisting. Have you tried HU suckout?
have u played poker before?
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02-28-2011 , 12:20 PM
Cool 19 hand session, -$3514.05/hour

Full Tilt Poker $100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (SB): $200.00
BB: $159.55
UTG: $91.60
MP: $202.60
CO: $131.85
BTN: $190.10

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with 5 A 3 A
1 fold, MP raises to $4.70, CO calls $4.70, BTN calls $4.70, Hero calls $4.20, 1 fold

Flop: ($19.80) 2 4 K (4 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets $21.00, BTN raises to $84, Hero calls $84, MP folds, CO folds

Turn: ($208.80) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $40.50, Hero raises to $110, BTN calls $60.90 all in

River: ($411.60) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $411.60
Hero shows 5 A 3 A
BTN shows 2 6 K K
BTN wins $409.40
(Rake: $2.00)



Full Tilt Poker $100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

Hero (CO): $205.50
BTN: $157.65
SB: $90.20
BB: $197.50
UTG: $102.75
MP: $409.20

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with Q 6 A 8
2 folds, Hero raises to $3, BTN calls $3, 1 fold, BB raises to $13.70, Hero calls $10.70, BTN calls $10.70

Flop: ($41.60) T K J (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $33.00, BB calls $33, Hero raises to $174.80, BTN calls $110.95 all in, BB calls $141.80

Turn: ($535.15) J (3 players - 1 is all in)
BB bets $8.80, Hero calls $8.80

River: ($552.75) 9 (3 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $552.75
Hero shows Q 6 A 8
BTN shows Q K 7 A
BB shows 7 9 K K
BB wins $79.70
BB wins $471.05
(Rake: $2.00)

EV means a lot, especially when you get your money in with 7.5% and 0% equity all day.
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02-28-2011 , 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SeaKing
Cool 19 hand session
solid control imo
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02-28-2011 , 01:16 PM
Better him than me, IMO.

Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

BB: $23.05
UTG: $16.94
Hero (MP): $27.79
CO: $55.91
BTN: $42.29
SB: $51.65

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with 7 2 4 J
2 folds, CO raises to $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, 1 fold, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($2.65) K 7 A (3 players)
BB checks, CO bets $2, BTN raises to $8.52, BB folds, CO raises to $28.08, BTN raises to $41.44 all in, CO calls $13.36

Turn: ($85.53) A (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($85.53) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $85.53
CO shows A 3 A J (four of a kind, Aces)
BTN shows Q T K 9 (a Royal Flush)
BTN wins $83.53
(Rake: $2.00)
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02-28-2011 , 01:17 PM
^ ouch
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02-28-2011 , 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by this_passing
have u played poker before?
Apperantly not as much as you. My point is that my 6 max graph looked somewhat similar to suckout before i decided to quit the 6 max train for good. If you dont are a big winner in those games, you should pray ur not running like bottom 20 percent cuz then you probaly wont make any money.

The probability for have a bigger edge is much larger in HU(im not talking exsclucively about bumhunting!) = less variance and suckout obv have had some bad experiences with 6max/poker/variance lately and I would def. advice him to try HU, a opinion based on own experiences.

Im also sorry I didnt include any superstandard setups that doesnt hold up, 7 BI upswing, misunderstandings of the EV concepts or admiring the ability to be to tilted to keep on playing after two standard beats.
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02-28-2011 , 04:20 PM
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.20 Ante - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

risktaker1 (CO): $245.30
titobaires (BTN): $93.20
Grupp6 (SB): $444.50
royape77 (BB): $105.55
Hero (UTG): $250.00
number007 (MP): $375.60

Pre Flop: ($2.70) Hero is UTG with 7 8 4 Q
Hero raises to $4.70, number007 raises to $16.80, 4 folds, Hero calls $12.10

Flop: ($36.30) 6 5 Q (2 players)
Hero checks, number007 bets $27, Hero raises to $115.50, number007 raises to $255, Hero calls $117.50 all in

Turn: ($502.30) T (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($502.30) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $502.30
Hero shows 7 8 4 Q (two pair, Queens and Sixes)
number007 shows 5 J T Q (two pair, Queens and Tens)
number007 wins $499.30
(Rake: $3.00)

number007 is the new lenakab. no matter what if u go allin, u will lose to him
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02-28-2011 , 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by SuchARush
Apperantly not as much as you. My point is that my 6 max graph looked somewhat similar to suckout before i decided to quit the 6 max train for good. If you dont are a big winner in those games, you should pray ur not running like bottom 20 percent cuz then you probaly wont make any money.

The probability for have a bigger edge is much larger in HU(im not talking exsclucively about bumhunting!) = less variance and suckout obv have had some bad experiences with 6max/poker/variance lately and I would def. advice him to try HU, a opinion based on own experiences.

Im also sorry I didnt include any superstandard setups that doesnt hold up, 7 BI upswing, misunderstandings of the EV concepts or admiring the ability to be to tilted to keep on playing after two standard beats.
If u can't handle the swings of plo 6max you should try HU. Ummmmmmmmmmm...........................uuuuuuuuuuu uuuuuuummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....................... .....

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02-28-2011 , 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SuchARush
Apperantly not as much as you. My point is that my 6 max graph looked somewhat similar to suckout before i decided to quit the 6 max train for good. If you dont are a big winner in those games, you should pray ur not running like bottom 20 percent cuz then you probaly wont make any money.

The probability for have a bigger edge is much larger in HU(im not talking exsclucively about bumhunting!) = less variance and suckout obv have had some bad experiences with 6max/poker/variance lately and I would def. advice him to try HU, a opinion based on own experiences.

Im also sorry I didnt include any superstandard setups that doesnt hold up, 7 BI upswing, misunderstandings of the EV concepts or admiring the ability to be to tilted to keep on playing after two standard beats.

what?!

hu variance >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6m variance
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02-28-2011 , 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by SuchARush
Apperantly not as much as you.
didn't mean to come off like that, just felt that your post was kinda weird to say to someone who is running many many BI below ev

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuchARush
My point is that my 6 max graph looked somewhat similar to suckout before i decided to quit the 6 max train for good. If you dont are a big winner in those games, you should pray ur not running like bottom 20 percent cuz then you probaly wont make any money.

The probability for have a bigger edge is much larger in HU(im not talking exsclucively about bumhunting!) = less variance and suckout obv have had some bad experiences with 6max/poker/variance lately and I would def. advice him to try HU, a opinion based on own experiences.
not sure i agree with it, but understand your point better now

Quote:
Originally Posted by SuchARush
Im also sorry I didnt include any superstandard setups that doesnt hold up, 7 BI upswing, misunderstandings of the EV concepts or admiring the ability to be to tilted to keep on playing after two standard beats.
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02-28-2011 , 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pkrtxs
number007 is the new lenakab. no matter what if u go allin, u will lose to him
I'm quite infatuated with his 3-bet of QJT5

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02-28-2011 , 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Johan5390
what?!

hu variance >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 6m variance
Variance is higher, but downswings and breakeven stretches might still be smaller... Especially if you are bumhunting (or otherwise just crushing)

250bb/100 standard deviation with 20bb/100 edge actually means less/smaller downswings than 150bb/100 SD with 4bb/100 edge.
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02-28-2011 , 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chinz
250bb/100 standard deviation with 20bb/100 edge actually means less/smaller downswings than 150bb/100 SD with 4bb/100 edge.
This, afaik. HU garfs tend to be smoother not because of lower SD, but because of the higher winrates.
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02-28-2011 , 05:15 PM
This discussion needs Ben Grundys graph to die a peaceful death.



All downswings under 15 BIs.
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02-28-2011 , 05:16 PM
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.20 Ante - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

number007 (CO): $250.00
Hero (BTN): $320.90
dr_anreb2007 (SB): $146.00
Revolutzer (BB): $198.80
tomek118822 (UTG): $313.40
Worm311 (MP): $407.55

Pre Flop: ($2.70) Hero is BTN with 8 T 7 6
2 folds, number007 raises to $4.70, Hero calls $4.70, 1 fold, Revolutzer calls $3.70

Flop: ($15.80) 6 8 3 (3 players)
Revolutzer checks, number007 bets $13, Hero raises to $47, Revolutzer folds, number007 raises to $147, Hero raises to $247, number007 calls $98.10 all in

Turn: ($506.00) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($506.00) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: $506.00
number007 shows 9 7 T 8 (a flush, Ten high)
Hero shows 8 T 7 6 (a straight, Six to Ten)
number007 wins $503.00
(Rake: $3.00)
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02-28-2011 , 05:40 PM
Poker Stars, $0.50/$1 PL Omaha Cash Game, 2 Players
LeggoPoker.com - Hand History Converter

BB: $100
Hero (BTN): $506

Pre-Flop: K A A J dealt to Hero (BTN)
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6) 2 3 4 (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($6) A (2 Players)
BB checks, Hero checks

River: ($6) A (2 Players)
BB bets $5.70, Hero raises to $22, BB calls $16.30

Results: $50 Pot ($0.50 Rake)
BB showed 4 K J 5 and WON $49.50 (+$25.50 NET)
Hero showed K A A J and LOST (-$24.50 NET)
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02-28-2011 , 05:45 PM
IPoker Network $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter By DeucesCracked Poker Videos

UTG: $200.00
MP: $209.75
Hero (CO): $211.10
BTN: $290.05
SB: $345.60
BB: $235.45

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is CO with 9 J 7 T
1 fold, MP raises to $7, Hero raises to $24, BTN calls $24, 2 folds, MP raises to $99, Hero calls $75, BTN calls $75

Flop: ($300.00) 8 9 K (3 players)
MP bets $110.75, Hero raises to $112.10, BTN calls $112.10

Turn: ($634.95) 6 (3 players)

River: ($634.95) 5 (3 players)

Final Pot: $634.95
MP shows K 9 K 4
BTN shows J Q 5 T
Hero wins $631.95
(Rake: $3.00)

had 19% otf
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