V raises CO to 3bb
H calls in BB w/ K887

HU to flop

QK7

H x
V cb 80% pot
H call

QK7 9

H x
V b 75% pot
H call

QK7 9 9

H x
V b 75% pot
H tank fold

This opponent is very good. He is capable of bluffing here, probably w/ something in the 10JQK-Ahxxx-AKJQ-9xxx region. I have seen him take similar lines for value, though.

after the hand i looked at my line and realized how capped i looked by the river after x/c every street: if he was bluffing this may have been why. i wish i had x/r'ed the turn, i was trying to set up the turn raise but on the turn in-game decided to wait another street.

holding two eights i felt that i wAS blocking him from having some kind of missed wrap that descended below the 9, i figured his most probable bluffs might have been straights he decided to bluff with (J10xx), NF blocker, Qk/Q7xx etc. maybe a bare 9, maybe a 9+straight or a high heart

blocking the k and 7 reinforced this, but he could have easily filled up with some kind of straight hand with Q9 or K9

nevertheless i folded, every bone in my body was telling me to call but ive played a lot with this guy and for some reason i sensed he had it here.

i needed around 35% to call here (villains bet %'s are just quick estimates), and im sure i had more than that.

whatever, i regret playing the hand this way but i think its interesting and i wanted to vent on the forums

id be interested to hear what anyone thinks about this hand

that is really the only line u can take

This seems like a snap call to me.

getting 2.3:1 villain needs to be bluffing 30.30% of the time, assuming that he is never value cutting himself.

some of this math is still new to me, is there like a chart or something for me to memorize? please ??

as played yea tank fold/call, i'm too nitty to be CRAIng in spots like those esp where I play (2PLO)

In order to convert from X:1 to percentage form, simply add 1 to X and divide the resultant sum from 100. That will tell you what % equity you need to break even on a call.

So if you are getting 2:1 ($100 in the pot villain bets $100) then you can divide 100 by 3 = 33.3 means you need 33.3% equity to call.

Whoops yeah i did the pot odds wrong.

Philmcneal imo the easiest way to understand pot odds is that they are the amount that your call will represent as % of the entire pot after the call, if your equity exceeds the amount you will will contribute as a % then u are +ev

I really hate this line vs good opponent. Fold pre, as played lead or xr flop. Calling as played based on description. Which isnt that much.

Vs described opponent, Seems like a nut flush value bet. It's close, but a fold.

Fold pre.

I think I call the K flush (because we don't really have much better here), but fold the J flush.

The most significant thing is that you're blocking KK, but KK probably doesn't bet turn so that's alright.

Fold pre.

If not. Check raise flop. If not, check raise turn. If not call the river.

I dont check call 2 streets and fold with a decent hand pretty much ever.

If I'm check calling 2 streets it means I'm trying to get to showdown as cheap as possible.

The board has to be scarier than that for me to fold.

But your hand is very strong on all 3 streets HU vs a steal position.

But check calling gives you absolutely no info. He could have literally anything.

What's the point of c/r flop ?! Nothing better ever folds and all the hands we get value from folds.

There are plenty of hands that can call/jam a c/r here. Ahxh, straight draws, AK + gutshot etc...

It is HU vs a steal spot, he should be anticipating a lot of c/r bluffs and semi bluffs. If he is folding everything but the nuts to c/r here he is not a good player.

this hand may be a fold according to monker, but im not sure. since this hand folded around to me and the pot was going to be HU i thought it was right at the bottom of a bb defense

its true i should have x/r'ed flop or turn, i was planning the turn x/r but for whatever reason decided to wait. not a hand im proud of but still interesting

i'm just starting to learn plo, but can someone help pls why we raise x/r turn as I guess only better calls i assume only better calls. Do we just want to make sets fold? / Don't we want to keep his bluffs in?
Ty

IME the purpose of a turn x/r would be to target sets/2P which could fill up on the river, get max value out of lower flushes

what you are describing in your post is my thought process in the hand: just because protection is so important in PLO, doesn't mean we should be betting for the sake of 'generic protection'...what regions of villains range are we targeting with a x/r? What is the exact purpose of a raise?

now that i am reviewing the hand again i dont think this line was a mistake, but there is merit in a turn raise.

Fold pre...your hand is trash.

AP, I don't think a good player with a set is betting this turn (unless he has Ato go with it and even then not with 100% frequency) so realistically the only hands that beat us are AXxx. I suppose he might bet JTxx as well, but I doubt he bets the river with those.

River getting 2.3-1 to call, so 30.3% equity needed to call. I think this one is really close and may depend on history with V and what you have seen him do.

Tough spot, but I don't think it makes sense to raise anywhere.

i thought that this hand would be at the bottom of a BB defense, and we are going HU to the flp against CO. vs a UTG open i would have folded pre