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Old 09-08-2009, 09:08 PM   #201
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Dap - I prob flat pre a lot because we are 150bbs deep with UTG but otherwise super-standard.
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Old 09-08-2009, 09:11 PM   #202
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:11 PM   #203
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Spew or standard? Have one more backdoor FD to ship?


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CO: t2705 M = 36.07
BTN: t3480 M = 46.40
SB: t2765 M = 36.87
BB: t6110 M = 81.47
UTG: t2740 M = 36.53
Hero (UTG+1): t2820 M = 37.60
MP1: t3008 M = 40.11
MP2: t4080 M = 54.40

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is UTG+1 with Q K 9 T
1 fold, Hero raises to t175, MP1 calls t175, MP2 calls t175, CO calls t175, BTN raises to t1125, 2 folds, Hero calls t950, 3 folds

Flop: (t2850) 2 3 K (2 players)
Hero bets t1695 all in, BTN calls t1695

Turn: (t6240) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t6240) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t6240
BTN shows A 7 7 A (a flush, Ace high)
Hero shows Q K 9 T (three of a kind, Kings)
BTN wins t6240
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Old 09-08-2009, 10:19 PM   #204
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

i'd just shove those chips preflop after BTN raises. not sure it's right move but we need to double up
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:40 PM   #205
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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MP: $8.80
CO: $6.90
BTN: $26.08
SB: $5.55
BB: $31.86
Hero (UTG): $27.99

CO posts a big blind ($0.25)

Pre Flop: ($0.70) Hero is UTG with 9 9 3 3
Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, 2 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.70) 6 3 8 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, CO calls $1.25, BB calls $1.25

Turn: ($5.45) Q (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.75, CO calls $2.75, BB raises to $16.45, Hero raises to $26.24 all in, CO calls $2.30 all in, BB calls $9.79

River: ($62.98) J (3 players - 2 are all in)


BB seems tightish/passive preflop and a little loose postflop. 20% c/r stat. standard ship here?
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:54 PM   #206
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MP: $8.80
CO: $6.90
BTN: $26.08
SB: $5.55
BB: $31.86
Hero (UTG): $27.99

CO posts a big blind ($0.25)

Pre Flop: ($0.70) Hero is UTG with 9 9 3 3
Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, 2 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.70) 6 3 8 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, CO calls $1.25, BB calls $1.25

Turn: ($5.45) Q (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.75, CO calls $2.75, BB raises to $16.45, Hero raises to $26.24 all in, CO calls $2.30 all in, BB calls $9.79

River: ($62.98) J (3 players - 2 are all in)


BB seems tightish/passive preflop and a little loose postflop. 20% c/r stat. standard ship here?
Against "little loose postflop" I would generally be happy about getting this in, just look at all the draws. You're probably not crushing him by any means, but three ways could mean the other guy has some of his outs, and if you're set overset, oh well. I think it's pretty standard against a loose postflop player.
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Old 09-08-2009, 11:55 PM   #207
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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SB: $8.61
BB: $16.85
UTG: $24.63
CO: $25.00
Hero (BTN): $64.03

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with T J 5 K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.10) J 7 J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.10) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.50

River: ($7.10) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $3.25, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds


villain is pretty loose/passive over a small sample. is folding here bad?
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:19 AM   #208
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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SB: $8.61
BB: $16.85
UTG: $24.63
CO: $25.00
Hero (BTN): $64.03

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with T J 5 K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.10) J 7 J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.10) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.50

River: ($7.10) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $3.25, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds


villain is pretty loose/passive over a small sample. is folding here bad?
looks like a really standard jack + ace kicker bet on the river to me. or even a full. either way youre beat.
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:35 AM   #209
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SB: $8.61
BB: $16.85
UTG: $24.63
CO: $25.00
Hero (BTN): $64.03

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with T J 5 K
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.10) J 7 J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $0.50, BB calls $0.50

Turn: ($2.10) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1, BB raises to $2.50, Hero calls $1.50

River: ($7.10) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $3.25, Hero requests TIME, Hero folds


villain is pretty loose/passive over a small sample. is folding here bad?
Bet more on every street. Other than that, its super standard. People at 25 plo don't bluff enough.
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Old 09-09-2009, 02:06 AM   #210
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Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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MP: $8.80
CO: $6.90
BTN: $26.08
SB: $5.55
BB: $31.86
Hero (UTG): $27.99

CO posts a big blind ($0.25)

Pre Flop: ($0.70) Hero is UTG with 9 9 3 3
Hero raises to $0.50, 1 fold, CO calls $0.25, 2 folds, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($1.70) 6 3 8 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.25, CO calls $1.25, BB calls $1.25

Turn: ($5.45) Q (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.75, CO calls $2.75, BB raises to $16.45, Hero raises to $26.24 all in, CO calls $2.30 all in, BB calls $9.79

River: ($62.98) J (3 players - 2 are all in)


BB seems tightish/passive preflop and a little loose postflop. 20% c/r stat. standard ship here?
I like potting the turn, what do you guys think is the best size there?
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Old 09-09-2009, 02:51 AM   #211
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Spew or standard? Have one more backdoor FD to ship?


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CO: t2705 M = 36.07
BTN: t3480 M = 46.40
SB: t2765 M = 36.87
BB: t6110 M = 81.47
UTG: t2740 M = 36.53
Hero (UTG+1): t2820 M = 37.60
MP1: t3008 M = 40.11
MP2: t4080 M = 54.40

Pre Flop: (t75) Hero is UTG+1 with Q K 9 T
1 fold, Hero raises to t175, MP1 calls t175, MP2 calls t175, CO calls t175, BTN raises to t1125, 2 folds, Hero calls t950, 3 folds

Flop: (t2850) 2 3 K (2 players)
Hero bets t1695 all in, BTN calls t1695

Turn: (t6240) J (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: (t6240) K (2 players - 1 is all in)

Final Pot: t6240
BTN shows A 7 7 A (a flush, Ace high)
Hero shows Q K 9 T (three of a kind, Kings)
BTN wins t6240
I'm no expert on tourneys but I imagine you should fold to the re-raise pre-flop... finally the words "wait for a better spot" have a useful application!

On this flop why are you shoving? He's not folding anything that beats you. If you want to get it in, check-call.
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Old 09-09-2009, 03:17 AM   #212
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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BB: $25.00
UTG: $31.80
MP: $22.51
CO: $22.20
Hero (BTN): $25.00
SB: $27.95

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 8 J 9 T
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.35, 3 folds, MP calls $1.10

Flop: ($3.30) 2 7 6 (2 players)
MP bets $3.30, Hero calls $3.30

Turn: ($9.90) J (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($9.90) 3 (2 players)
MP bets $9.90, Hero folds

Villain was 85/4, over a tiny sample (28 hands). Looked like a calling station. I put him on two pair or a set.

Did I play this too weakly on the flop and turn? On a rainbow flop I would have happily re-potted. On the turn, I still had a ton of outs and hoped to improve. I also felt there was a check-raise possibility. Given the rest of the hand, the river is a clear fold, I think.
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Old 09-09-2009, 12:06 PM   #213
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BB: $25.00
UTG: $31.80
MP: $22.51
CO: $22.20
Hero (BTN): $25.00
SB: $27.95

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 8 J 9 T
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.35, 3 folds, MP calls $1.10

Flop: ($3.30) 2 7 6 (2 players)
MP bets $3.30, Hero calls $3.30

Turn: ($9.90) J (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($9.90) 3 (2 players)
MP bets $9.90, Hero folds

Villain was 85/4, over a tiny sample (28 hands). Looked like a calling station. I put him on two pair or a set.

Did I play this too weakly on the flop and turn? On a rainbow flop I would have happily re-potted. On the turn, I still had a ton of outs and hoped to improve. I also felt there was a check-raise possibility. Given the rest of the hand, the river is a clear fold, I think.
This looks fine. If he is a station as you think he is, wait for a spot to just value bet him to death, especially if he is 85/4.
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Old 09-09-2009, 01:43 PM   #214
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BB: $25.00
UTG: $31.80
MP: $22.51
CO: $22.20
Hero (BTN): $25.00
SB: $27.95

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is BTN with 8 J 9 T
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero raises to $1.35, 3 folds, MP calls $1.10

Flop: ($3.30) 2 7 6 (2 players)
MP bets $3.30, Hero calls $3.30

Turn: ($9.90) J (2 players)
MP checks, Hero checks

River: ($9.90) 3 (2 players)
MP bets $9.90, Hero folds

Villain was 85/4, over a tiny sample (28 hands). Looked like a calling station. I put him on two pair or a set.

Did I play this too weakly on the flop and turn? On a rainbow flop I would have happily re-potted. On the turn, I still had a ton of outs and hoped to improve. I also felt there was a check-raise possibility. Given the rest of the hand, the river is a clear fold, I think.
im betting this turn in position near 100%
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Old 09-09-2009, 05:59 PM   #215
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sucks, but standard c/f flop for most?

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MP: $59.35
CO: $266.60
BTN: $200.00
SB: $368.85
BB: $100.00
Hero (UTG): $470.15

Pre Flop: ($4.80) Hero is UTG with 2 J A A
Hero raises to $8.80, 2 folds, BTN raises to $31.20, 2 folds, Hero raises to $98.40, BTN calls $67.20

Flop: ($201.60) 7 T J (2 players)
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Old 09-09-2009, 06:12 PM   #216
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btn has half a pot behind? Just shove.
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Old 09-09-2009, 06:16 PM   #217
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by standard c/f you mean standard shove right?

well yeah, I agree!
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Its a flop that misses us almost completely, and should hit villain square in the face. Even though he has only 1/2 pot left is it still that easy of a shove? I can think of better ways to burn $100...
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Its a flop that misses us almost completely, and should hit villain square in the face. Even though he has only 1/2 pot left is it still that easy of a shove? I can think of better ways to burn $100...
well, i can think of better ways burning 200$ than folding here.
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Old 09-09-2009, 08:51 PM   #220
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how do you play this guys? any reasons for shoving flop as we ahead of nut straight here? turn?

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BTN/SB: $95.80
Hero (BB): $105.90

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 6 7 T T
BTN/SB calls $0.50, Hero checks

Flop: ($2.00) T J 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.90, BTN/SB raises to $7, Hero calls $5.10

Turn: ($16.00) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $15.50, Hero calls $15.50

River: ($47.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $46.50, Hero folds
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I'd just ship flop but since you flatted the rest of it is fine.
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Old 09-10-2009, 04:07 AM   #222
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how do you play this guys? any reasons for shoving flop as we ahead of nut straight here? turn?

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BTN/SB: $95.80
Hero (BB): $105.90

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 6 7 T T
BTN/SB calls $0.50, Hero checks

Flop: ($2.00) T J 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.90, BTN/SB raises to $7, Hero calls $5.10

Turn: ($16.00) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $15.50, Hero calls $15.50

River: ($47.00) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $46.50, Hero folds
This is fine as long as you feel comfortable check shoving/getting all-in when you hit whatever boat or flush comes imo. (i.e. you think villain will turn his hand into a bluff if you check to him on the turn or river) Otherwise, there is little extra value by giving up your small edge on the flopso you should probably just take the edge now.
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Old 09-10-2009, 08:12 AM   #223
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Why would check when you hit and hope villain turns his hand into a bluff? He'll check behind way too often. You have to value bet when you hit.
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sucks, but standard c/f flop for most?

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MP: $59.35
CO: $266.60
BTN: $200.00
SB: $368.85
BB: $100.00
Hero (UTG): $470.15

Pre Flop: ($4.80) Hero is UTG with 2 J A A
Hero raises to $8.80, 2 folds, BTN raises to $31.20, 2 folds, Hero raises to $98.40, BTN calls $67.20

Flop: ($201.60) 7 T J (2 players)
please tell me u didnt fold
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^^^ hey thx for answers
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