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08-22-2010 , 07:18 AM
Hand1

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($8.56)
Hero (BB) ($12.72)
UTG ($9.35)
MP ($13.54)
CO ($10.35)
Button ($26.33)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 10, J, 8
2 folds, CO bets $0.35, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.10, CO raises to $3.35, Hero calls $2.25

Flop: ($6.75) K, 2, Q (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $6.75, Hero raises to $9.37 (All-In), CO calls $0.25 (All-In)
Spoiler:

Turn: ($20.75) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($20.75) 10 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $20.75 | Rake: $1.38

Results:
Hero had 9, 10, J, 8 (straight, King high).
CO had A, 4, A, 2 (two pair, Aces and Queens).
Outcome: Hero won $19.37



Hand2

Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

BB ($6.30)
UTG ($11.02)
MP ($5.25)
Hero (CO) ($10.32)
Button ($14.81)
SB ($10)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 7, 9, 4, 5
UTG calls $0.10, MP calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.55, 2 folds, BB raises to $1.90, UTG calls $1.80, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.35

Flop: ($5.85) 3, 10, 6 (3 players)
BB bets $4.40 (All-In), UTG calls $4.40, Is it profitable to shove here 3way?
Spoiler:
Hero folds

Turn: ($14.65) J (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($14.65) 7 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $14.65 | Rake: $0.97

Results:
BB had Q, Q, K, K (one pair, Kings).
UTG had A, 9, 9, 5 (one pair, nines).
Outcome: BB won $13.68
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08-22-2010 , 07:36 AM
1: stove it vs a range of AAxx, some decent KKxx and rundown
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: kq3
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
AA**, KK**, BBBB60.59% 361,6433,806
JhTs9c8h39.41% 234,5513,806
so you got the right odds

2: probably not with a higher wrap and a FD out there and no showdown value

Last edited by mmmmkay; 08-22-2010 at 07:38 AM. Reason: w/ KhQc3c it becomes 37 vs 63%
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08-22-2010 , 08:23 AM
new to plo, is it standard to call here with my hand? what's the worst pair i should be calling here with?

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.20 Ante - 4 players
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BTN: $148.95
Hero (SB): $166.05
BB: $200.00
CO: $137.90

Pre Flop: ($2.30) Hero is SB with 9 4 Q Q
CO calls $1, BTN raises to $5.30, Hero calls $4.80, 1 fold, CO calls $4.30


i know this hh is 3 handed and deep but say it's 6 handed and 100bb deep, would you call a 3bet with this hand? would you call a 3bet with a hand like TTxx single suited? what kind of hands should i be folding to 3bets most of the time?

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.20 Ante - 3 players
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Hero (BTN): $236.25
SB: $198.80
BB: $72.40

Pre Flop: ($2.10) Hero is BTN with 3 A J 9
Hero raises to $3, SB raises to $10.60
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08-23-2010 , 10:57 AM
Felt dirty.

Poker Stars $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 7 players
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MP: $100.90
CO: $66.00
BTN: $1141.90
SB: $241.65
BB: $200.00
UTG: $449.45
Hero (UTG+1): $207.50

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG+1 with K Q J A
1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BTN raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero raises to $39, BTN calls $27

Flop: ($81.00) Q 8 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $34.00, BTN calls $34

Turn: ($149.00) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $88.00, Hero raises to $134.50, BTN calls $46.50

River: ($418.00) 3 (2 players)
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08-23-2010 , 12:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by s1`
Felt dirty.

Poker Stars $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 7 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

MP: $100.90
CO: $66.00
BTN: $1141.90
SB: $241.65
BB: $200.00
UTG: $449.45
Hero (UTG+1): $207.50

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is UTG+1 with K Q J A
1 fold, Hero raises to $6, 2 folds, BTN raises to $12, 2 folds, Hero raises to $39, BTN calls $27

Flop: ($81.00) Q 8 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $34.00, BTN calls $34

Turn: ($149.00) A (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $88.00, Hero raises to $134.50, BTN calls $46.50

River: ($418.00) 3 (2 players)
move to BBV? or is this a serious question?
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08-23-2010 , 04:38 PM
sorry didn't mean to be an ass, so, yeah, this looks standard
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08-25-2010 , 03:53 AM
PL Omaha $0.50(BB)

Tilting fish ($49.10)
Good reg ($161)
Hero ($52.74)
MP ($44.75)
CO ($11.60)
Btn ($42.10)

Tilting fish posts (SB) $0.25
Good reg posts (BB) $0.50

Dealt to Hero 4d 5c 6s Td
Hero raises to $1.75, fold, fold, Btn calls $1.75, Tilting fish calls $1.50, Good reg calls $1.25
FLOP ($7) Ad Qd 6c
Tilting fish checks, Good reg checks, Hero checks, Btn checks
TURN ($7) Ad Qd 6c 7c
Tilting fish bets $4.50, Good reg calls $4.50, Hero raises to $24.65, Btn folds, Tilting fish calls $20.15, Good reg raises to $105, Hero calls $26.34 (AI), Tilting fish calls $22.70 (AI)
RIVER ($156) Ad Qd 6c 7c As

The good reg figured to have not much on the turn, max top two but most likely weak club flush draw + weak straight draw. The tilting fish gets squeezed by my raise and could be taking a stab 'cos he likes to do that. I'm pretty bloody aggro on this table at the moment. Pre-flop is a clear fold in hindsight. Sorry for the lack of conversion.

Is my raise so bad?
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08-25-2010 , 03:57 AM
snap fold pre, and yes raise is bad with action and it being multiway, you don't even have the club draw... : / pretty terrible imo
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08-25-2010 , 04:42 AM
Have the diamond draw tho. But thanks for the reply. Some over aggressiveness to deal with in my game I think.
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08-25-2010 , 08:31 AM
Party Poker $25.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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UTG: $21.88
Hero (CO): $25.00
BTN: $20.02
SB: $23.75
BB: $22.47

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with 8 9 7 6
UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.10, BTN calls $1.10, SB calls $1, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.85

Flop: ($4.65) 4 T 7 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.21, BTN calls $2.21, SB calls $2.21, UTG folds

Turn: ($11.28) 2 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $10.72, SB folds, Hero calls $10.72

River: ($32.72) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $5.99, Hero folds

Villain is reasonably good and will launch a bluff at my perceived weakness when I check the turn fairly regularly but even then I'm never quite sure what to do with monster wraps that miss the turn. Presume this line is ok despite being passive?
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08-25-2010 , 09:32 AM
Poker Stars $25.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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CO: $34.97
BTN: $28.62
SB: $25.22
BB: $8.84
UTG: $28.39
Hero (MP): $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with T Q A J
UTG raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.60, CO calls $2.60, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.85

Flop: ($8.15) 4 7 J (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.00, CO calls $5, UTG folds

Turn: ($18.15) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets ?

Vilain is playing 90/45, I guess it's std to get it in on this turn, isnt it ?
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08-25-2010 , 09:38 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fr3nch fi$t
Poker Stars $25.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: $34.97
BTN: $28.62
SB: $25.22
BB: $8.84
UTG: $28.39
Hero (MP): $25.00

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is MP with T Q A J
UTG raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $2.60, CO calls $2.60, 3 folds, UTG calls $1.85

Flop: ($8.15) 4 7 J (3 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $5.00, CO calls $5, UTG folds

Turn: ($18.15) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets ?

Vilain is playing 90/45, I guess it's std to get it in on this turn, isnt it ?
Yes, if he has a 4 gl to him
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08-25-2010 , 07:31 PM
Full Tilt Poker $25.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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MP: $60.94
CO: $17.62
BTN: $66.93
Hero (SB): $25.00
BB: $99.08
UTG: $34.45

CO posts a big blind ($0.25)

Pre Flop: ($0.60) Hero is SB with A J A K
1 fold, MP raises to $1.10, CO calls $0.85, BTN calls $1.10, Hero raises to $5.75, BB calls $5.50, MP calls $4.65, CO calls $4.65, BTN calls $4.65

Flop: ($28.75) 6 5 2 (5 players)
Hero checks (19.25 behind), BB checks, MP checks, CO bets $11.87, BTN calls $11.87, Hero folds

what do you guys think of my line?
this is a spot i've never been in before... 3 ways I would shove and if the board was a bit more disconnected i would shove but I gotta think at least one dude's got us crushed 5 way, right?
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08-25-2010 , 10:23 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rafifer
Full Tilt Poker $25.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter

MP: $60.94
CO: $17.62
BTN: $66.93
Hero (SB): $25.00
BB: $99.08
UTG: $34.45

CO posts a big blind ($0.25)

Pre Flop: ($0.60) Hero is SB with A J A K
1 fold, MP raises to $1.10, CO calls $0.85, BTN calls $1.10, Hero raises to $5.75, BB calls $5.50, MP calls $4.65, CO calls $4.65, BTN calls $4.65

Flop: ($28.75) 6 5 2 (5 players)
Hero checks (19.25 behind), BB checks, MP checks, CO bets $11.87, BTN calls $11.87, Hero folds

what do you guys think of my line?
this is a spot i've never been in before... 3 ways I would shove and if the board was a bit more disconnected i would shove but I gotta think at least one dude's got us crushed 5 way, right?
Not common to have 5 to the flop in a 3b pot at 6-max. You get 3 alot and 4 sometimes.

100bb and SPR of 0.65, can't be bad shoving imo

Could be wrong though
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08-26-2010 , 02:00 PM
Villain seems solid TAG and I haven't seen him get out of line. I'd assume committing on the turn is standard?


Poker Stars $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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BB: $76.98
UTG: $34.34
Hero (CO): $27.14
BTN: $31.48
SB: $24.40

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with 6 Q 5 Q
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.75, BTN calls $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) 2 7 Q (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.75, BTN calls $1.75, BB calls $1.75

Turn: ($7.60) K (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $6.50, BTN folds, BB raises to $26.73, Hero calls $18.14 all in

River: ($56.88) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)
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08-26-2010 , 02:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ben K
Party Poker $25.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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UTG: $21.88
Hero (CO): $25.00
BTN: $20.02
SB: $23.75
BB: $22.47

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with 8 9 7 6
UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.10, BTN calls $1.10, SB calls $1, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.85

Flop: ($4.65) 4 T 7 (4 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $2.21, BTN calls $2.21, SB calls $2.21, UTG folds

Turn: ($11.28) 2 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $10.72, SB folds, Hero calls $10.72

River: ($32.72) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $5.99, Hero folds

Villain is reasonably good and will launch a bluff at my perceived weakness when I check the turn fairly regularly but even then I'm never quite sure what to do with monster wraps that miss the turn. Presume this line is ok despite being passive?
if you are betting flop, bet $4 at least. you want FE or get it in. it also sets up a perfect turn shove.

now, if you are putting any more money in the pot w/ the draw + pair, i much prefer doing it myself as a semi-bluff. but then again, after a half pot bet on the flop you won't get much credit. so c/f
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08-28-2010 , 04:26 PM
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($10) 33/4 over 24 hands
BB ($10)
UTG ($9.85)
MP ($3.06)
CO ($11.75)
Hero (Button) ($21.62)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, Q, K, 8
UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero bets $0.45, SB calls $0.40, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.45) 7, 4, 10 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.20, SB raises to $5.05, 1 fold, HERO?
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08-30-2010 , 05:15 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insta McBusto
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($10) 33/4 over 24 hands
BB ($10)
UTG ($9.85)
MP ($3.06)
CO ($11.75)
Hero (Button) ($21.62)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, Q, K, 8
UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero bets $0.45, SB calls $0.40, 1 fold, UTG calls $0.35

Flop: ($1.45) 7, 4, 10 (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $1.20, SB raises to $5.05, 1 fold, HERO?
stacking off
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09-01-2010 , 03:31 PM
ez b/c turn? any merrit check back turn and get value from bluffs on the river? or am i overthinking this?


Hero (BTN/SB): $844.15
BB: $450.35

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN/SB with T 9 Q 9
Hero raises to $12, BB raises to $36, Hero calls $24

Flop: ($72.00) 3 9 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $48, BB calls $48

Turn: ($168.00) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $112
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09-01-2010 , 04:16 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2+2=5
ez b/c turn? any merrit check back turn and get value from bluffs on the river? or am i overthinking this?


Hero (BTN/SB): $844.15
BB: $450.35

Pre Flop: ($6.00) Hero is BTN/SB with T 9 Q 9
Hero raises to $12, BB raises to $36, Hero calls $24

Flop: ($72.00) 3 9 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $48, BB calls $48

Turn: ($168.00) 4 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $112
yeah bet/call
checking back might make him less likely to bluff river since it looks like a pot control/bluff catcher kind of thing and as a 3bettor/ccaller it seems like he wants to get to showdown pretty cheaply anyways
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09-02-2010 , 07:09 PM
Full Tilt Pot-Limit Omaha, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

saw flop | saw showdown

SB ($11.76)
BB ($12.84)
UTG ($12.41)
MP ($17.19)
Hero (Button) ($10)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, A, A, 10
2 folds, Hero bets $0.35, 1 fold, BB calls $0.25

Flop: ($0.75) 2, 9, 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($0.75) J (2 players)
BB bets $0.45, Hero calls $0.45

River: ($1.65) 2 (2 players)
BB bets $1.65, Hero calls $1.65

Total pot: $4.95 | Rake: $0.33
Spoiler:

Results:
Hero had J, A, A, 10 (two pair, Aces and nines).
BB had 8, 6, 2, 9 (full house, nines over twos).
Outcome: BB won $4.62
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09-03-2010 , 10:09 PM
I think this is probably standard... Villain is unknown.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BB: $31.96
UTG: $27.01
MP: $25.10
Hero (CO): $29.11
BTN: $44.22
SB: $60.07

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with T 7 T 8
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.80) J J J (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.40, BTN folds, SB calls $1.40

Turn: ($5.60) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.60) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $5.60, Hero calls $5.60
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09-03-2010 , 10:13 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy2DaBeroy
I think this is probably standard... Villain is unknown.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BB: $31.96
UTG: $27.01
MP: $25.10
Hero (CO): $29.11
BTN: $44.22
SB: $60.07

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with T 7 T 8
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.80) J J J (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.40, BTN folds, SB calls $1.40

Turn: ($5.60) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.60) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $5.60, Hero calls $5.60
Easy river fold u beat absolutely nothing
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09-03-2010 , 10:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leroy2DaBeroy
I think this is probably standard... Villain is unknown.

Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

BB: $31.96
UTG: $27.01
MP: $25.10
Hero (CO): $29.11
BTN: $44.22
SB: $60.07

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is CO with T 7 T 8
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.85, BTN calls $0.85, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($2.80) J J J (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.40, BTN folds, SB calls $1.40

Turn: ($5.60) 3 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($5.60) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $5.60, Hero calls $5.60
the opposite of standard
betting the flop is kind of strange too
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09-04-2010 , 07:35 AM
Vs a ridic passive 0.9

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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UTG: $80.35
MP: $55.95
Hero (CO): $113.40
BTN: $73.60
SB: $141.80
BB: $458.05

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with J 5 T T
1 fold, MP raises to $3.50, Hero calls $3.50, BTN calls $3.50, 1 fold, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($14.50) 5 K T (4 players)
BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $14.50, BTN calls $14.50, BB folds, MP folds

Turn: ($43.50) J (2 players)
Hero bets $43.50, BTN raises to $55.60 all in, Hero calls $12.10

River: ($154.70) 4 (2 players - 1 is all in)
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