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01-21-2010 , 04:49 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by dutchhen
Is this call too marginal? I am entirely sure he has some sort of Aces here and we're deep. Flop was an obvious shove to me:

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BB: $135.60
Hero (BTN/SB): $262.40

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with 5 K 7 K
Hero raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $13.50, BB raises to $40.50, Hero calls $27

Flop: ($81.00) K Q J (2 players)
BB bets $81, Hero raises to $162, BB calls $14.10 all in

Turn: ($271.20) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

River: ($271.20) 9 (2 players - 1 is all in)
nh
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01-21-2010 , 04:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoopster81
pot....
Did you notice stack sizes? If I raise pot and the threebetter goes over I can not reopen the betting.
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01-21-2010 , 04:58 PM
so what? youre only deep with one of them, and the pot will be so huge you will have to ship the flop no matter what anyways
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01-21-2010 , 05:26 PM
maybe bet/fold river? how much to bet?

Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BTN/SB: $270.85
Hero (BB): $282.50

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with T K A 9
BTN/SB calls $1, Hero raises to $6, BTN/SB calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) J Q A (2 players)
Hero bets $10, BTN/SB calls $10

Turn: ($32.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $25, BTN/SB calls $25

River: ($82.00) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $30, Hero folds
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01-21-2010 , 05:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoopster81
pot....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoopster81
so what? youre only deep with one of them, and the pot will be so huge you will have to ship the flop no matter what anyways
bingo
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01-21-2010 , 06:57 PM
I'm new to PLO. Villain was starting to play back at me after I started off pretty aggro. Line check:

Poker Stars $100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BB: $138.35
Hero (BTN/SB): $118.50

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN/SB with 8 T A K
Hero raises to $3, BB calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 9 A Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $5.00, BB raises to $10, Hero raises to $27, BB calls $17

Turn: ($60.00) 2 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $59.50, BB raises to $108.35, Hero calls $29 all in

River: ($237.00) 3 (2 players - 1 is all in)
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01-21-2010 , 07:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2+2=5
maybe bet/fold river? how much to bet?

Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BTN/SB: $270.85
Hero (BB): $282.50

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with T K A 9
BTN/SB calls $1, Hero raises to $6, BTN/SB calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) J Q A (2 players)
Hero bets $10, BTN/SB calls $10

Turn: ($32.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $25, BTN/SB calls $25

River: ($82.00) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $30, Hero folds
I like b/f river better than c/f.
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01-21-2010 , 07:04 PM
Villain has just sat at table so far very straight forward 30/10

The question is call or jam flop bet?


Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.10 Ante - 6 players
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BB: $100.00
UTG: $111.50
Hero (MP): $132.85
CO: $39.65
BTN: $50.00
SB: $103.20

Pre Flop: ($1.35) Hero is MP with J 9 T 7
UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.85, CO calls $2.85, 2 folds, BB raises to $11, 1 fold, Hero calls $8.15, CO calls $8.15

Flop: ($34.35) 4 8 9 (3 players)
BB bets $22, Hero????
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01-21-2010 , 07:14 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shoobri
Villain has just sat at table so far very straight forward 30/10

The question is call or jam flop bet?


Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.10 Ante - 6 players
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BB: $100.00
UTG: $111.50
Hero (MP): $132.85
CO: $39.65
BTN: $50.00
SB: $103.20

Pre Flop: ($1.35) Hero is MP with J 9 T 7
UTG calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.85, CO calls $2.85, 2 folds, BB raises to $11, 1 fold, Hero calls $8.15, CO calls $8.15

Flop: ($34.35) 4 8 9 (3 players)
BB bets $22, Hero????


I jam this all day. If you call and miss, you have to fold. If you call and hit, villain is either freerolling or shutting down. You're ahead of his c-bet range after 3-betting, and I think you have fe.

Edit: I didn't notice that CO called too. I would still jam, but I don't feel nearly as confident about it now. So, in summation:

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01-21-2010 , 10:15 PM
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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SB: $67.40
Hero (BB): $100.00
UTG: $112.20
MP: $109.30
CO: $100.00
BTN: $96.60

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A T 7 4
1 fold, MP calls $1, 1 fold, BTN raises to $4, 1 fold, Hero calls $3, MP calls $3

Flop: ($12.50) 9 T A (3 players)
Hero checks, MP checks, BTN bets $11, Hero raises to $44.90, MP folds, BTN calls $33.90

Turn: ($102.30) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $47.70 all in, Hero folds?

I know preflop is loose.

This is about the worst turn ever..c/f even though I'm getting 3:1?

I hate these spots because I feel like by checking I'm inviting myself to get owned by his entire range. But the turn hits his range so hard. Its like I'm damned if I do, damned if I don't.
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01-22-2010 , 07:12 AM
does a bluff work here 47%?

Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $2(BB) Replayer
SB ($75.25)
BB ($174)
UTG ($142)
UTG+1 ($167)
CO ($121)
Hero ($200)

Dealt to Hero 5 J A 8

UTG calls $2, fold, fold, Hero raises to $9, SB calls $8, fold, UTG calls $7

FLOP ($29) Q 3 9

SB checks, UTG checks, Hero checks

TURN ($29) Q 3 9 7

SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $23, SB folds, UTG calls $23

RIVER ($75) Q 3 9 7 3

UTG bets $48, Hero ??
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01-22-2010 , 07:17 AM
No. His line is very weird. Also you checked back the flop why he cant give you credit for QQ/99. You need to hit set of 7s to raise here and thats pretty much it. I just give up. And isolating UTG with this hand is just super super spewy.
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01-22-2010 , 11:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JustAmazing777
No. His line is very weird. Also you checked back the flop why he cant give you credit for QQ/99. You need to hit set of 7s to raise here and thats pretty much it. I just give up. And isolating UTG with this hand is just super super spewy.
yeah i agree, bluffing sucks, pre is fine in my book, we have the button, who cares about our hand
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01-22-2010 , 11:20 AM
I guess we should. I just think that our hand has to little potential to win the pot by actually making the best hand. There are also times when one of the bilnds come along and and limper obv. calls. There will be to many flop where you have to give up 3ways or if one of them calls your Cbet. Its not you can 3barrel everybody out of the pot. Plz dont get me wrong I play superlose from BU myself and its obv. the way to go but this isnt one of them imo. If we don traise 2222 from but but AJ85 Jhigh suit where will be the pooint when we start folding? Are we raising and nontrips singlesuited hands? I just think it is to lose if the UTG already limped in. Its not like you would steal the bilnds as you are going to be called every time.
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01-22-2010 , 11:24 AM
Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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BB: $18.40
UTG: $10.20
MP: $7.00
CO: $10.05
BTN: $11.45
Hero (SB): $25.45

Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with 9 8 8 5
3 folds, BTN calls $0.10, Hero calls $0.05, BB checks

Flop: ($0.30) 6 4 7 (3 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $0.20, BTN folds, Hero raises to $0.80, BB calls $0.60

Turn: ($1.90) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $0.90, BB calls $0.90

River: ($3.70) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.60, BB calls $1.60

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $6.90
BB shows 2s 6d 6c Kc (a full house, Sixes full of Fours)
Hero shows 9d 8s 8d 5c (a flush, Nine high)
BB wins $6.60
(Rake: $0.30)
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01-22-2010 , 06:29 PM
Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 9 players
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Hero (MP1): $210.75
MP2: $26.90
CO: $45.55
BTN: $107.45
SB: $76.45
BB: $112.50
UTG: $59.00
UTG+1: $69.90
UTG+2: $169.30

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is MP1 with J A 6 A
3 folds, Hero raises to $3.50, 3 folds, SB calls $3, 1 fold

Flop: ($8.00) T 2 J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $7, SB calls $7

Turn: ($22.00) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $16, SB calls $16

River: ($54.00) A (2 players)
SB bets $40, Hero folds?
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01-22-2010 , 07:14 PM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Absolute
SB ($115)
Hero ($75.10)
UTG ($35.24)
UTG+1 ($203)
CO ($62.10)
BTN ($61.90)

Dealt to Hero J 2 J Q

UTG calls $0.50, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.50, fold, Hero checks

FLOP ($2.35) A 9 T

Hero checks, UTG bets $2.35, BTN calls $2.35, Hero calls $2.35

TURN ($9.40) A 9 T 8

Hero checks, UTG checks, BTN bets $9.40, Hero raises to $37.60, UTG folds, BTN folds

Hero shows J 2 J Q

Hero wins $26.80

On this board, does anyone play to extract, or just go for the push like i did, villain is pretty aggressive.
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01-22-2010 , 09:14 PM
It's three handed and lots of rivercards that could kill your hand, so it's really the only option.
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01-22-2010 , 11:39 PM
Villain seemed to be a good reg, 9% 3bet, 500 hands.

Poker Stars $100.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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MP: $230.60
CO: $29.95
BTN: $71.60
SB: $102.75
BB: $100.00
Hero (UTG): $407.80

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with K 2 K 3
Hero raises to $3.50, MP calls $3.50, 3 folds, BB calls $2.50

Flop: ($11.00) K 8 A (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $8.00, MP raises to $33, BB folds, Hero calls $25

Turn: ($77.00) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $67.00, Hero raises to $275, MP calls $127.10 all in

River: ($465.20) 2 (2 players - 1 is all in)

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $465.20
MP shows Qd As Ac 4d
Hero shows Kd 2c Kc 3d
MP wins $462.20
(Rake: $3.00)
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01-23-2010 , 01:24 AM
Grabbed by Holdem Manager
PL Omaha $0.50(BB) Absolute
($80.80)
Hero ($58.90)

Dealt to Hero 8 2 K T

Hero raises to $1.50, calls $1

FLOP ($3) T Q 2

checks, Hero bets $2, raises to $9, Hero raises to $30, raises to $79.30 (AI), Hero calls $27.40 (AI)

villain probably on tilt, just curious if this was a standard stack off spot
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01-23-2010 , 10:29 AM
villian was 3betting a lot, potting 100% turn when i check behind flop in 3 bet pots, so i decide to mix and check flop, then he pots turn which he will do 100% of the time as i said and i made a really dumb raise the reason to make that raise with such a gay sizing was that i was thinking that he is thinking i'm getting frustrated with his turn leadings and i may just bluff raise this turn + i didnt show any strenght on the flop cheking it back, but if i raise full pot he obv will understand that he has no fold equty and he can't semibluff reshove something weird here. so anyway can river be a call with these odds? thx

Poker Stars $200.00 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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Hero (BTN/SB): $480.50
BB: $231.90

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN/SB with 7 8 J 3
Hero raises to $6, BB raises to $18, Hero calls $12

Flop: ($36.00) 8 J 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($36.00) 3 (2 players)
BB bets $35.50, Hero raises to $100, BB calls $64.50

River: ($236.00) 4 (2 players)
BB bets $113.90, Hero folds
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01-23-2010 , 10:36 AM
mash pot on turn then you're getting like 4.5 to 1 on this river. really no reason not to put another 44 or so more in that pot on turn. how would he think he has fold equity with u raising to 100, but not 144? stacks aren't deep

river's probably a good fold, but it does kind of look like u have some kind of diamond semi-bluff here so idk
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01-23-2010 , 10:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jwc529
how would he think he has fold equity with u raising to 100, but not 144? stacks aren't deep
yah... i hate myself now for such a dumb play.
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01-23-2010 , 05:57 PM
Aces question

In this hand Villain (UTG) is 42/21 and has just previously OOP flatted a 3-bet with 55xx and of course hit bottom set and shoved..

Is an over pair + bdnfd ever any good here?


Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi $0.10 Ante - 6 players
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SB: $69.95
BB: $231.25
UTG: $87.45
MP: $115.45
CO: $97.05
Hero (BTN): $50.40

Pre Flop: ($1.35) Hero is BTN with A 7 A 9
UTG calls $0.50, MP calls $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $3.35, 1 fold, BB calls $2.85, UTG calls $2.85, MP calls $2.85

Flop: ($14.25) J 6 8 (4 players)
BB bets $14.25, UTG raises to $57, MP folds, Hero ?????
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01-23-2010 , 08:46 PM
villian lol_pokermon on stars, hes very very solid. i want to call soooo badly!!! can I??

Poker Stars $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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BTN/SB: $275.50
Hero (BB): $754.10

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BB with 8 4 5 A
BTN/SB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) 3 J 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $10, BTN/SB calls $10

Turn: ($32.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $25, BTN/SB calls $25

River: ($82.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $68, BTN/SB raises to $234.50 all in, Hero
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