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Old 08-30-2009, 08:40 AM   #76
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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check the stack sizes, its not much of a two decision hand.
i'd just bet/call because of the stack sizes
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Old 08-30-2009, 11:49 AM   #77
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how do you ply turn when this card comes out? villian is kind of straightforward, loves to minraise/minbet strong made hands, seems like dont bluff much his calling range most of the time FD + something with it, like pair or weak oesd i think. cheking sucks? we give a free card with a best hand here often? or the pot is way to big allready to anything other than shoving? i got straight outs also.

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Hero (BTN/SB): $76.05
BB: $158.20

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN/SB with 7 7 T K
Hero raises to $1.50, BB calls $1

Flop: ($3.00) 2 8 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2, BB raises to $6.50, Hero raises to $22.35, BB calls $15.85

Turn: ($47.70) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $47.20, BB raises to $94.40, Hero calls $5 all in

River: ($152.10) J (2 players - 1 is all in)
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Old 08-30-2009, 11:55 AM   #78
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

^ looks like a standard bet/call with about 1psb left, esp with the T
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Old 08-30-2009, 12:29 PM   #79
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Ye, I like the play in the previous hand.
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Old 08-30-2009, 01:41 PM   #80
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

I have the Q so I think he is FOS here... you like?

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BTN: $32.40
SB: $82.55
Hero (BB): $76.00
CO: $75.95

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with Q 9 A Q
CO raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) 3 J 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.00, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($9.75) K (2 players)
Hero bets $7.50, CO raises to $22.50, Hero calls $15

River: ($54.75) J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

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Old 08-30-2009, 01:45 PM   #81
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i'd also think he's FOS when I have the nuts too, i'd shove if i thought he was doing that with a flush
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Old 08-30-2009, 02:11 PM   #82
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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I have the Q so I think he is FOS here... you like?

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BTN: $32.40
SB: $82.55
Hero (BB): $76.00
CO: $75.95

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with Q 9 A Q
CO raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.25

Flop: ($3.75) 3 J 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $3.00, Hero calls $3

Turn: ($9.75) K (2 players)
Hero bets $7.50, CO raises to $22.50, Hero calls $15

River: ($54.75) J (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

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I play it exactly the same, you cant do anything in this case but let them bluff (which they usually stop after you call the raise).
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Old 08-30-2009, 07:28 PM   #83
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

Normally I wouldn't open this from the SB after limpers, just decided to mix it up I guess. Bad open?

I pretty much ginned this flop, but I hate that three people want to play for stacks... even so I assume its std?

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BTN: $25.00
Hero (SB): $34.58
BB: $16.16
UTG: $37.87
MP: $19.43
CO: $36.06

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with J T 9 7
2 folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, BB calls $1, CO calls $1, BTN calls $1

Flop: ($5.00) 6 J 8 (4 players)
Hero bets $5, BB raises to $14.91 all in, CO folds, BTN raises to $23.75 all in, Hero calls $18.75
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Old 08-30-2009, 07:34 PM   #84
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

villain standard loose/passive, high fold to river bet...
should we barrel the turn?

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BB ($323.95) ______ (53/13/1,82/35 - 2066h)
MP3 ($215.60)
CO ($202.00) ______ (33/6/1,43/23 - 628h)
BTN ($218.55) ________ (27/15/3,4/37 - 85h)
SB ($348.66) _________ (16/12/4,08/27 - 10373h)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J A9 8
Hero raises to $7.00, CO calls $7.00, 2 folds, BB calls $5.00,

Flop: 3, 7, K ( $22, 3 players )
BB checks, Hero bets $20.00, 1 folds, BB calls $20.00,

Turn: 9 ( $62, 2 players )
BB checks, Hero bets $44.00, BB raises to $194.00, 1 folds,

Results:
Outcome: BB wins $297.00



this is after hand1, same villain. his small donks are usually "for info", weak overpairs, weak 2pairs on straight board etc.

turn? villain insta pots river, standard fold against this guy right? (river AF 4 but agr freq 17 and high fold to river bet)


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SB ($365.65) ______ (53/13/1,82/35 - 2066h)
BB ($200.00)
MP3 ($207.25) ________ (46/24/2,13/26 - 11929h)
CO ($211.50) _________ (27/15/3,4/37 - 85h)
BTN ($216.05) ________ (41/11/2,02/24 - 1630h)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K 39 9
3 folds, SB raises to $5.00, Hero calls $4.00,

Flop: J, 4, 5 ( $12, 2 players )
SB bets $3.00, Hero raises to $20.00, SB calls $17.00,

Turn: K ( $52, 2 players )
SB checks, Hero bets $44.00, SB calls $44.00,

River: 3 ( $140, 2 players )
SB bets $140.00, 1 folds,

Results:
Outcome: SB wins $277.00
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Old 08-30-2009, 07:45 PM   #85
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

are these hands way tooo spewy?
my image is ~24/17 std tag

1. villain is 29/12 100hand seems abc

$0.5/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
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Stacks:
UTG ($117.85)
UTG+1 ($134.40)
CO ($100.00)
BTN ($53.15)
Hero (SB) ($106.45)
BB ($115.10)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is SB 7 J A A
UTG calls $1, 1 fold, CO raises to $4.50, BTN calls $4.50, Hero calls $4, 1 fold, UTG calls $3.50

Flop: 4 J K ($19, 4 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, CO checks, BTN checks

Turn: 7 ($19, 4 players)
Hero bets $14, UTG calls $14, 2 folds

River: 2 ($47, 2 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $26, Hero calls $26

would be a better call if he pots it?



2. villain is abc like in the first hand (but other person)

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6 players
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Stacks:
UTG ($118.90)
UTG+1 ($100.10)
CO ($23.60)
BTN ($61.10)
SB ($103.00)
Hero (BB) ($100.00)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is BB T K A A
3 folds, BTN raises to $3.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $11, BTN calls $7.50

Flop: Q 9 K ($22.50, 2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $22.50, Hero raises to $89, BTN calls $27.60
I have 2psb do you ever find a fold here? how it is important that I block str8 and topset a littlebit?


3. unknown opponent just sat down
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Stacks:
UTG ($63.40)
Hero (UTG+1) ($100.00)
CO ($100.00)
BTN ($79.95)
SB ($51.15)
BB ($62.85)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 6 players) Hero is UTG+1 8 9 Q 6
UTG calls $1, Hero raises to $4.50, 3 folds, BB calls $3.50, UTG calls $3.50

Flop: J 6 3 ($14, 3 players)
BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $11, BB calls $11, UTG folds

Turn: 7 ($36, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $36
I am only worried about 45xx and Jhxhxx. Am I able to force hands like barenfd , J ?


4. I play this hand the same away against the 90% of the players, but now our enemy is 60/10/1 wtsd 32 .
$0.5/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi
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Converted at weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero (CO) ($101.30)
BTN ($114.45)
SB ($72.50)
BB ($100.00)

Pre-flop: ($1.50, 4 players) Hero is CO 4 Q 5 Q
Hero raises to $3.50, 1 fold, SB calls $3, BB calls $2.50

Flop: 8 K 2 ($10.50, 3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $8, SB folds, BB calls $8

Turn: T ($26.50, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $20, BB calls $20

River: J ($66.50, 2 players)
BB checks, [color="#cc0000"]Hero bets $66.50
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Old 08-30-2009, 07:47 PM   #86
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

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Normally I wouldn't open this from the SB after limpers, just decided to mix it up I guess. Bad open?

I pretty much ginned this flop, but I hate that three people want to play for stacks... even so I assume its std?

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BTN: $25.00
Hero (SB): $34.58
BB: $16.16
UTG: $37.87
MP: $19.43
CO: $36.06

Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with J T 9 7
2 folds, CO calls $0.25, BTN calls $0.25, Hero raises to $1.25, BB calls $1, CO calls $1, BTN calls $1

Flop: ($5.00) 6 J 8 (4 players)
Hero bets $5, BB raises to $14.91 all in, CO folds, BTN raises to $23.75 all in, Hero calls $18.75
I think the whole hand including preflop is as standard as it gets.

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villain standard loose/passive, high fold to river bet...
should we barrel the turn?

PL Omaha, $200.00 (HHConverter by Kreatief)
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BB ($323.95) ______ (53/13/1,82/35 - 2066h)
MP3 ($215.60)
CO ($202.00) ______ (33/6/1,43/23 - 628h)
BTN ($218.55) ________ (27/15/3,4/37 - 85h)
SB ($348.66) _________ (16/12/4,08/27 - 10373h)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with J A9 8
Hero raises to $7.00, CO calls $7.00, 2 folds, BB calls $5.00,

Flop: 3, 7, K ( $22, 3 players )
BB checks, Hero bets $20.00, 1 folds, BB calls $20.00,

Turn: 9 ( $62, 2 players )
BB checks, Hero bets $44.00, BB raises to $194.00, 1 folds,

Results:
Outcome: BB wins $297.00
2nd barrel is good if you shove all non-spade rivers.

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this is after hand1, same villain. his small donks are usually "for info", weak overpairs, weak 2pairs on straight board etc.

turn? villain insta pots river, standard fold against this guy right? (river AF 4 but agr freq 17 and high fold to river bet)


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SB ($365.65) ______ (53/13/1,82/35 - 2066h)
BB ($200.00)
MP3 ($207.25) ________ (46/24/2,13/26 - 11929h)
CO ($211.50) _________ (27/15/3,4/37 - 85h)
BTN ($216.05) ________ (41/11/2,02/24 - 1630h)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K 39 9
3 folds, SB raises to $5.00, Hero calls $4.00,

Flop: J, 4, 5 ( $12, 2 players )
SB bets $3.00, Hero raises to $20.00, SB calls $17.00,

Turn: K ( $52, 2 players )
SB checks, Hero bets $44.00, SB calls $44.00,

River: 3 ( $140, 2 players )
SB bets $140.00, 1 folds,

Results:
Outcome: SB wins $277.00
I look him up on the river there. He is never donking a set there, diamonds missed and 76 got there. I think that's a call.
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Old 08-30-2009, 11:25 PM   #87
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1st hand no reads

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Hero (BB): $100.00
BTN/SB: $100.00

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 3 T 4 T
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) A 7 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BTN/SB raises to $35, Hero ??
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Old 08-30-2009, 11:31 PM   #88
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Old 08-30-2009, 11:42 PM   #89
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Old 08-30-2009, 11:47 PM   #90
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god that's gross, how come u 3bet there on 1st hand with tens?
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Old 08-30-2009, 11:48 PM   #91
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well... maybe i should not... tilting a bit... it's 6.40 in the morning here and i didnt sleep yet.
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:45 AM   #92
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villain is 88/52 with a 32% wtsd
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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UTG: $55.40
CO: $124.55
BTN: $51.90
Hero (SB): $69.95
BB: $42.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 9 T J K
UTG raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5.75, 1 fold, UTG calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) 3 Q 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.50, UTG calls $8.50

Turn: ($29.00) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $20.50, UTG calls $20.50

River: ($70.00) K (2 players)
Hero bets $35.20 all in, UTG calls $20.65 all in

Spoiler:



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UTG: $50.00
MP: $60.70
CO: $116.15
BTN: $67.75
SB: $58.35
Hero (BB): $49.50

UTG posts a big blind ($0.50)

Pre Flop: ($1.25) Hero is BB with 7 K K 6
UTG checks, 3 folds, SB raises to $2, Hero calls $1.50, UTG calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.00) 2 T 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.50, UTG calls $4.50, SB folds

Turn: ($15.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $9, UTG raises to $18, Hero folds

Final Pot: $33.00
UTG wins $31.40
(Rake: $1.60)

villain is unknown
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Old 08-31-2009, 02:08 AM   #93
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villain is 88/52 with a 32% wtsd
Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 5 players
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UTG: $55.40
CO: $124.55
BTN: $51.90
Hero (SB): $69.95
BB: $42.00

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with 9 T J K
UTG raises to $1.75, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5.75, 1 fold, UTG calls $4

Flop: ($12.00) 3 Q 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $8.50, UTG calls $8.50

Turn: ($29.00) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $20.50, UTG calls $20.50

River: ($70.00) K (2 players)
Hero bets $35.20 all in, UTG calls $20.65 all in

Spoiler:



Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 6 players
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UTG: $50.00
MP: $60.70
CO: $116.15
BTN: $67.75
SB: $58.35
Hero (BB): $49.50

UTG posts a big blind ($0.50)

Pre Flop: ($1.25) Hero is BB with 7 K K 6
UTG checks, 3 folds, SB raises to $2, Hero calls $1.50, UTG calls $1.50

Flop: ($6.00) 2 T 3 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $4.50, UTG calls $4.50, SB folds

Turn: ($15.00) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $9, UTG raises to $18, Hero folds

Final Pot: $33.00
UTG wins $31.40
(Rake: $1.60)

villain is unknown

Hand 1: Standard 3-bet pre. Standrad C-bet since we flopped a complete airball, c/f sometimes too obv. I also like the flop sizing since we're b/f'ing(shhh don't tell anyone that). On the turn, I thing we can expect some decent amount of FE in this spot, so barreling and stacking off seems ok with the nut wrap and the price we're getting. River meh standard.

Hand 2: I don't get the fold. He's laying over 4.5:1 immediate odds, so assuming even a shred of implied odds, calling is +EV.
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Old 08-31-2009, 11:50 AM   #94
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Re: *~* Quick Checkup Thread - PLO flavour *~*

jwc-

Hand 1: Preflop/flop are fine, turn = my new favorite thing to post in every thread: if you are going to bet, why would you bet anything but full pot here?

Hand 2: I have no idea why you folded getting a zillion to 1 with your FD and gutter.
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:27 PM   #95
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villian is good/aggresive. can float with wide range etc.

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Hero (BB): $192.50
BTN/SB: $220.95

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A T 8 2
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) K 5 J (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BTN/SB calls $14

Turn: ($46.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $45, BTN/SB raises to $180.50, Hero $124.5 to call
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:28 PM   #96
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bet turn? same villian

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Hero (BB): $124.40
BTN/SB: $191.60

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with Q T 8 8
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 2 8 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $5.70, Hero raises to $22.80, BTN/SB calls $17.10

Turn: ($51.60) 5 (2 players)
Hero
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:31 PM   #97
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same villian. ok?

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Hero (BB): $101.00
BTN/SB: $142.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 9 A Q 8
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) A 9 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $5.70, Hero raises to $22.80, BTN/SB calls $17.10

Turn: ($51.60) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $51.10, BTN/SB
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Old 08-31-2009, 02:00 PM   #98
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2+2 half your HHs are broken, we can't see the whole thing.
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Old 08-31-2009, 02:16 PM   #99
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Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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Hero (BB): $192.50
BTN/SB: $220.95

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with A T 8 2
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $9, BTN/SB calls $6

Flop: ($18.00) K 5 J (2 players)
Hero bets $14, BTN/SB calls $14

Turn: ($46.00) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $45, BTN/SB raises to $180.50, Hero $124.5 to call
I think a turn check would give you a better range of options here- you could consider a c/r against certain players. I also like c/c and bet any heart, Q, and some of the other draw-completing cards. Betting and leaving yourself in a spot where you're just not quite getting the price to call a shove isn't so great.

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bet turn? same villian

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
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Hero (BB): $124.40
BTN/SB: $191.60

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with Q T 8 8
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) 2 8 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $5.70, Hero raises to $22.80, BTN/SB calls $17.10

Turn: ($51.60) 5 (2 players)
Hero

same villian. ok?

Poker Stars $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 2 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

Hero (BB): $101.00
BTN/SB: $142.40

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BB with 9 A Q 8
BTN/SB raises to $3, Hero calls $2

Flop: ($6.00) A 9 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN/SB bets $5.70, Hero raises to $22.80, BTN/SB calls $17.10

Turn: ($51.60) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $51.10, BTN/SB
I don't think backing off when you have a set/top 2, there is an SPR of ~2, and the low straight hits is the best plan.
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2+2 half your HHs are broken, we can't see the whole thing.
thats weird... sorry.
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