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02-01-2017 , 12:34 PM
I'd 3-bet this pre for sure, and as played wouldn't lead the flop with anything.

You probably have the best hand on the river too often to bluff this.
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02-02-2017 , 02:22 AM
My standard is definitely to 3bet pre. More of a gameflow thing for why I didn't in this specific hand.

I think I have the best hand very infrequently on the river, why do you think otherwise?
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02-02-2017 , 10:41 AM
If he's a decent thinking player, he has a turn semibluffing range. You do have blockers against draws, but you also have JJ, and your overall card removal should skew his range more towards semibluffs.
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02-06-2017 , 07:01 AM
hi folks,

i usually play a PLO tourney on the side just for fun - never cash game, so i might lack a bit of experience.

Saturday I played a $7,50 PLO tournament and after the hand I wondered what the best move is in this situation:

It's early, I doubled up already and sit on 200BBs in the BB. It's 6max and a solid UTGplayer makes a minraise to 200 - blind 50/100. Button calls. Both have 100BBs. Now it's my turn with AAA6 - A6 being hearts.

Do you raise this? Call? Does your move change with less effektive BBs?

Oh yeah, forgot two mention: we got two re-entries left.
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02-06-2017 , 08:44 AM
I would call in this specific instance. 3bet when stacks get shorter to the point where you can shove flop if it's good for you.
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02-06-2017 , 09:18 AM
Standard call and see the flop.
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02-14-2017 , 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TheChamp11
My standard is definitely to 3bet pre. More of a gameflow thing for why I didn't in this specific hand.

I think I have the best hand very infrequently on the river, why do you think otherwise?
If that were the case, what are you trying to accomplish by betting, and betting pot for that matter?
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02-14-2017 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by AveeMaria
If that were the case, what are you trying to accomplish by betting, and betting pot for that matter?
Fold out better hands? This is called a Bluff.

Betting pot is to fold out more better hands. This is called a pot sized bluff.
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02-15-2017 , 03:08 AM
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02-15-2017 , 03:50 AM
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Originally Posted by AveeMaria
I'm not sure whether anyone's ever told you this before, but I feel compelled to just come out and say it. You, gay, are a mad genius type scientist who could've cured any number of, what we perceive today, to be incurable diseases. A great loss to humanity, but I, and many others, understand your pursuit of more noble aspirations. Keep doing a bang up job!
I'll take it as a compliment. Hope you learnt something!
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02-15-2017 , 04:25 AM
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02-15-2017 , 05:16 PM
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02-21-2017 , 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Rei Ayanami
If he's a decent thinking player, he has a turn semibluffing range. You do have blockers against draws, but you also have JJ, and your overall card removal should skew his range more towards semibluffs.
Out of curiosity what stakes do you play?
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02-21-2017 , 04:21 PM
1-2-5 Live

V1: 100 eff: Currently on tilt. Just got stacked 3 times. Buy's in min ($100), if he opens generally wide, he will bet flop.
V2: 300 eff: Pre flop, generally more active than other rec players so he's usually wide. Plays ABC post.
Hero: Covers: Nitty image.

2 limps. V1 opens 25. Guy to my right calls. I call 678T in MP. v2 on btn calls. sb calls. 1 limper calls. 6 ways

($150) 692
Checks to V1. V1 bets $50. Folds to me. I raise $250. (Should have raised pot?). V2 shoves for $300 total ($50 more). Others fold. V1 snaps.

Standard? Or flat flop and let others into the pot and just call it down on good run outs?
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02-21-2017 , 05:53 PM
I like the way you played it. We have a respectable chance of winning UI all in versus V1, and the pot is really built up.
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02-21-2017 , 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by PositiveEV
1-2-5 Live

V1: 100 eff: Currently on tilt. Just got stacked 3 times. Buy's in min ($100), if he opens generally wide, he will bet flop.
V2: 300 eff: Pre flop, generally more active than other rec players so he's usually wide. Plays ABC post.
Hero: Covers: Nitty image.

2 limps. V1 opens 25. Guy to my right calls. I call 678T in MP. v2 on btn calls. sb calls. 1 limper calls. 6 ways

($150) 692
Checks to V1. V1 bets $50. Folds to me. I raise $250. (Should have raised pot?). V2 shoves for $300 total ($50 more). Others fold. V1 snaps.

Standard? Or flat flop and let others into the pot and just call it down on good run outs?
So it's 6 ways to the flop and V1 bets $50 of a $75 stack into a $150 pot? What are the stacks of the other 3 players? Only wrong play is to fold.
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02-22-2017 , 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by AveeMaria
So it's 6 ways to the flop and V1 bets $50 of a $75 stack into a $150 pot? What are the stacks of the other 3 players? Only wrong play is to fold.
Other 3 players have $300 eff.
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03-04-2017 , 03:23 PM
    IPoker, $0.50/$1 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37659827

    SB: $101 (101 bb)
    BB: $134 (134 bb)
    MP: $86.85 (86.9 bb)
    CO: $100 (100 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $104.43 (104.4 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with K 4 2 K
    MP raises to $3.50, CO folds, Hero calls $3.50, 2 folds

    Flop: ($8.50) T 2 4 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $5.50, MP raises to $25, Hero raises to $83.50, MP folds

    Spoiler:
    Results: $58.50 pot ($2.92 rake)
    Final Board: T 2 4
    MP mucked and lost (-$28.50 net)
    Hero mucked K 4 2 K and won $55.58 ($27.08 net)



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    Only 16 hands, but villain was 64/64.

    Decided to short buy into a loose 100 game, triple up, and am now faced with this situation. It seems very difficult for villain to frequently have a better hand than me given he opened the HJ and this disconnected board. It seems much more likely he's overplaying a hand like AA5x, AA3x, or even top pair w/ a lot of big card improvers, all of which I can possibly force to fold incorrectly with a shove.
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    03-11-2017 , 12:06 PM
    Haven't played live in a long time, wanted to make sure I'm not terrible:

    Both 8-handed in a 1/2 game with $5 bring-in. Fairly nitty game.

    (1) AA83ddd utg (starting hand with about $450), I bring in for $5. 3 calls to CO who makes it 35. Folds back to me, I ask how much he's playing and he's got about 300 behind. I pot for 145. HJ thinks for a bit and cold-calls. He has me covered and has generally been playing pretty straightforward on the tighter side. CO also calls.

    754d flop. I? (about a pot bet behind)


    (2) AA92cc utg1 (about $300 to start the hand). I limp for $5. Few more limpers, we go 6 ways to the flop of T84r (might have had two hearts, but let's say it was rainbow, no clubs).

    sb leads for 15, bb calls. I?
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    03-14-2017 , 07:26 AM
    Can you open to 18 or only 7 with a bring in? We play 3 blind games so I don't encounter them. Assuming you can open with the bring in factored, raise pre.

    Fold flop in hand 2, especially if there's hearts.
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    03-14-2017 , 08:20 AM
    You can open to pot which is $15. I would have if they were better aces, but in EP I'd rather bring in for $5, and hope to iso if someone raises, with pretty bad aces like I had both times here.

    What do you think about flop in hand 1? I feel like this flop doesn't hit either of their ranges. The coldcaller has a lot of rundowns, but should have more Q- or J- hi rundowns, not too much 8764 and stuff. The CO has a ton of KKxx I think.

    I agree, I folded hand two. A friend said he would peel but I don't think that's going to be winning money long term. Unless turn and river are both Aces, which happened in this hand haha.
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    03-16-2017 , 12:08 AM
    Jamming flop in hand 1 is fine, though I can't fault you if you opted to x/f to a jam. Given it's live PLO and 3 ways to a flop on a connected board, you'll find that players tend to be pretty sticky pre and connect with these boards more often than they should. With the bdfd, gap up top and the 8, for better or worse, I think I lean towards shoving.

    I still open both hands pre.
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    04-04-2017 , 08:46 AM
    Do the merits of getting it in and potentially sometimes folding out 33/JT or getting it in vs occasional weaker draws outweigh the benefits of calling and getting away on pairing cards and sometimes getting folds on A/9?

    Anything else to note in this hand?

      Poker Stars, $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      SB: $32.74 (327.4 bb)
      BB: $12.48 (124.8 bb)
      UTG: $12.02 (120.2 bb)
      MP: $18.18 (181.8 bb)
      CO: $10 (100 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $56.42 (564.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 K 8 A
      UTG raises to $0.30, MP calls $0.30, CO folds, Hero calls $0.30, SB folds, BB calls $0.20

      Flop: ($1.25) 3 J T (4 players)
      BB checks, UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets $0.80, BB raises to $3.60, 2 folds, Hero raises to $12, BB raises to $12.18 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.18

      Turn: ($25.61) 9 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($25.61) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $25.61 pot ($1.09 rake)
      Final Board: 3 J T 9 6
      BB showed J J 2 T and won $24.52 ($12.04 net)
      UTG mucked and lost (-$0.30 net)
      MP mucked and lost (-$0.30 net)
      Hero showed 9 K 8 A and lost (-$12.48 net)
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      04-13-2017 , 09:30 AM
      I'm currently playing 2PLO and I have a reasonable pre-flop strategy worked out. I'm doing very well so far but my question is what do I do when I have a guy who has RFI of
      65/74/88/92 from EP-BTN and is either mr(weaker) or pot. When he opens CO I just treat him like a dead straddle and raise my normal BTN range. This is fine when we are 200bb deep which happens quite frequently because I 3b him a tonne but what should I be doing when stacks are only 100bb. Note that he does r/f pre when he's mr sometimes but very rarely r/f pot. I also can't recall ever being 4b by this guy in just 700 hands I've seen with him.

      My current strategy vs this guy is to just 3b top 15%(too tight?, too loose?) and to just flat my normal opening range (~55%). This is when we are 100bb deep.
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      05-01-2017 , 12:14 PM
      PokerStars - $0.05 PL Hi (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

      BB: 161.8 BB (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
      UTG: 102.6 BB (VPIP: 26.67, PFR: 13.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
      MP: 98 BB (VPIP: 69.23, PFR: 15.38, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
      Hero (CO): 345.8 BB
      BTN: 50.8 BB (VPIP: 86.67, PFR: 6.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)
      SB: 19.4 BB (VPIP: 71.43, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)

      SB posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

      Pre Flop: (pot: 1.4 BB) Hero has Q 9 4 Q

      UTG calls 1 BB, fold, Hero raises to 2 BB, BTN calls 2 BB, fold, BB calls 1 BB, UTG calls 1 BB

      Flop: (8.4 BB, 4 players) 8 8 8
      BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets 6.2 BB, fold, BB calls 6.2 BB, fold

      Turn: (20.8 BB, 2 players) 7
      BB checks, Hero bets 12.4 BB, BB raises to 29 BB, Hero calls 16.6 BB

      River: (78.8 BB, 2 players) 3
      BB bets 78.8 BB
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